Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stratford, Virginia

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Johnleemk | Talk 05:01, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stratford, Virginia

This article is a severe stub, and, in its current state, would need alot of improvement, which is why I'm placing it up for deletion. Joeblow13- Delete--Joeblow13 21:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep. Just needs to be expanded. No Guru 21:53, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep real places --Jaranda wat's sup 21:56, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, real place. Kappa 22:00, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
  • "Needs to be expanded, so I want to delete it." No offense intended but I can't see the logic here. -- Saberwyn - The Zoids Expansion Project 22:22, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Just about every town and village in the world has a Wikipedia article, the birthplace of an historical figure shouldn't be an exception. Captain Jackson 00:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as real place. Cyde Weys votetalk 00:30, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep -- Krash 01:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep.. As above. Also add to Stratford so it will be easier to find for people to expand. Crunch 01:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
I've now added it to Stratford. Crunch 01:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. On closer examination, it appears that Stratford exists solely of Stratford Hall Plantation, which already has a fairly complete article. I'm not sure if it's in Montross (pop. 315), but that's the nearest town. And I'm also not sure there is anything else to say about Stratford. Maybe a clarification on the Stratford Hall Plantation article that Stratford consists solely of the plantation and a redirect from Stratford to Stratford Hall Plantation. Has anyone been there who can verify this? Crunch 01:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Stratford Hall Plantation per my explanation above. Stratford has its own zip code, but other than Stratford Plantation, there is nothing else. It's not a real town. Crunch 13:23, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Past precedent on real towns, even if they are substubs. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:44, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I strongly recommend a Redirect to Stratford Hall Plantation. Like Crunch, I haven't been able to find any evidence at all that it is a real town (with inhabitants or government or recognition from the state). It is in Westmoreland County, Virginia, which is itself very small, with only 16k residents. I looked-up Stratford's zip code at the Post Office web site; It does have its own code, 22558, but it consists of only a single PO Box (likely the Robert E. Lee Memorial Association, who run the plantation as a museum, since they list that zip code on their web site). If, in fact, Stratford refers solely to the plantation, it should not have a separate article. ×Meegs 10:17, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, real place with lots of expansion. It does not mean if it is a stub then it should be deleted. --Terence Ong 13:18, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • More Comments. Well, in an effort to try to clarify things I actually phoned Stratford Hall Plantation today (804-493-8371) to see if someone there could help me figure out the relationship between Stratford and Stratford Hall Plantation. I spoke to a person in their Visitors Center who told me, "Stratford is the Stratford Hall Plantation. We have our own zipcode but that's it. It's just for the Plantation." I asked if there were any residents of Stratford and he said that there were a few employees of the Stratford Hall Plantation who live on site, but no one else. He also sounded like he gets asked this a lot. Based on this I think it doesn't make sense to have two separate articles. Crunch 17:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.