Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stoopid Monkey

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Majorly (hot!) 10:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stoopid Monkey

Stoopid Monkey (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

The production company of actor Seth Green, which produces the TV series Robot Chicken. No sources in its three very short paragraphs attesting to its importance other than a link to its official articles of incorporation, one of its press release announcing that it's signed a deal -- and 42 links to a fanwiki intended to justify the inclusion of a complete list of 42 production logos used on the show. Fails WP:CORP (as a standalone subject, since it's not even mentioned in the Seth Green article itself), fails WP:RS, fails WP:OR (the list), and seems primarily to be used as a fancruftian vehicle for inserting the list of logos. Calton | Talk 00:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, I think Calton has said it all! --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 00:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. The company's production of an internationally televised TV series and two-picture deal with a major film studio firmly establish its notability. I agree with Calton that the list of production logos doesn't belong, and I also share the suspicion that sock/meat puppetry may have occurred (as a means of circumventing the 3RR), but neither is a valid reason to delete the article. Most of the above objections pertain to content that should simply be removed (as Calton and others attempted to do), leaving behind a perfectly valid stub about a notable company. —David Levy 01:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Detete the show is arguably notable, but not its producer which still has a second show to produce. --FateClub 02:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• At the very least, why not merge the lead into the Seth Green article and redirect Stoopid Monkey there? This factually is his production company, and there's no good reason not to document that fact somewhere (and send users who search for "Stoopid Monkey" to a relevant article). —David Levy 02:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• In fact, Calton previously proposed such a merger and switched to AfD after an edit-war broke out. —David Levy 02:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• merge to Seth Green per above. Chris 03:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - While I realize the Google test isn't authoritative, the phrase "Stoopid Monkey" gets 3 unique news archive hits and 272 unique web hits. These include T-shirts being sold at Amazon and elsewhere, an IMDB page, and an article about the company's upcoming film Naughty or Nice. I believe this is enough independent sources to establish notability for the company independently from Seth Green (note that this company is actually the team of Seth Green and Matthew Senreich). Also please note that the page existed and was being maintained for nearly one year before the recent spate of edit warring occurred. DHowell 05:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - I have suggested the "Stoopid Monkey" section be merged into the Robot Chicken page or the Seth Green page. - SVRTVDude ^{(Yell | Toil)} 05:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Thewinchester ^(talk) 07:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Merge into List of Robot Chicken episodes. It looks like the article's only real purpose is to collect a list of the ending titles where the monkey is about to kill or injure himself. Since it's a running gag on the show, it's probably better to put those gags into List of Robot Chicken episodes with each episode. (As an aside, I think this is one of the funniest shows on TV right now, but WP:ILIKEIT shouldn't enter as an argument here.) --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 13:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as noteworthy, but delete list of production logos. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 15:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Merge the lead into Seth Green, and the production logos list into List of Robot Chicken episodes to put them into context. Krimpet (talk/review) 16:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep, because Robot Chicken is an active show and always ends with that Stupid Monkey thing! --Wikipedian, Historian, and Friend? 16:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

  Wikipedian, Historian, and Friend? (talk · contribs) just opined "strong keep" in 27 AFD discussions over a period of 35 minutes, several times with clearly disruptive rationales. Uncle G 16:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

  Before discounting this opinion for the reason Uncle G is stating, please look at the edit history of other participants in this discussion to see that AfD edits are often among edits to a similar number of AfD discussions in a similarly short period of time. And I'm not sure what is so "clearly disruptive" about the rationales given (they may be insufficient for some people's tastes, but I believe they are made in good faith). Also, following this user around and commenting on all his AfD opinions is arguably stalking. DHowell 18:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

  Ahem! Uncle G 19:21, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• Merge to Seth Green JAMDAWG 16:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC) ^{talk with me·changes}
• Merge per all other mergers. Acalamari 16:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to Seth Green. Keep, recent changes have asserted notability. -Seinfreak37 17:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• MERGE or KEEP as per other posts! Bacl-presby 18:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep but cleanup (remove or somehow shorten list). --ElKevbo 21:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and continue to clean and expand. This is a legitimate production company of some notability. See no grounds for deletion. Gateman1997 04:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and improve article. Company's notability has been established. Alansohn 04:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - notability has been established WaysAndMeans 00:46, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, don't merge, mostly per David Levy and DHowell, who's research and information are what tip the scales. --badlydrawnjeff talk 16:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. doesn't need to be merged with Seth, as it's not just his company. Bouncehoper 03:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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