Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen McKeever
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete - Philippe | Talk 03:39, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Stephen McKeever
Multiple problems here, for one it is very likely an autobiography, thus the npov, verifiability, and conflict of interest are present. It asserts notability, thus can't be speedy deleted under section A7. Vivio TestarossaTalk Who 13:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete: No reliable sources to back up the barely asserted notability. --JD554 (talk) 13:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. Clear conflict of interest, and no coverage in reliable sources to verify the bulk of this material. Can anyone ascertain if he has competed in a professional championship? If not, then he fails WP:BIO anyway. PC78 (talk) 14:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - COI is grounds for cleanup (and this article needs a big cleanup for NPOV) - not for deletion. I find references that he has performed at the highest levels of Irish motorcycle racing. I don't expect to find a lot of refs because Ireland is relatively small and motorcycle racing is not nearly as popular as other sports. Combine the two and you have a small niche but still I think he satisfies WP:Athlete. Sbowers3 (talk) 14:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: There is nothing in the article which says he is a professional rider, so that's out. Is racing Aprilia 125s in clubman championships the highest amateur level available in Ireland? If not, then he fails WP:Athlete. --JD554 (talk) 15:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, the subject asserts (at the Help desk (see below) that he is a professional and that he has been racing at a national level in Ireland. If those statements can be verified then are we okay for notability per WP:Athlete? And then we're okay for Keep with NPOV cleanup, aren't we? Sbowers3 (talk) 14:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, if it can be verified I'll be happy to change my vote to keep. WP:ATHLETE simply needs 1 race at a professional level - a bit of a joke, but that's another argument ;-) --JD554 (talk) 14:48, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, the subject asserts (at the Help desk (see below) that he is a professional and that he has been racing at a national level in Ireland. If those statements can be verified then are we okay for notability per WP:Athlete? And then we're okay for Keep with NPOV cleanup, aren't we? Sbowers3 (talk) 14:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: There is nothing in the article which says he is a professional rider, so that's out. Is racing Aprilia 125s in clubman championships the highest amateur level available in Ireland? If not, then he fails WP:Athlete. --JD554 (talk) 15:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. I am not very bothered by the self-confessed conflict of interest since the article seems not to inflate the chap's achievements. The problem is he clearly has not achieved much so far, which is not to say that he will not do so. Looking at the redlinks on the List of Grand Prix cyclists, I think I would suggest he concentrates on making them into blue links, learning about WP:RS, WP:V and WP:NOTABILITY. - Kittybrewster ☎ 15:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Comment This comment at the help desk detailing the WP:COI issues here may be considered relevant or not. Pedro : Chat 14:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.