Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Luntz

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete.  (aeropagitica)  01:30, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stephen Luntz

A political staffer for a political patry (Australian Greens in Victoria) which has had never won any parliamentary seats in the Victorian state election. A minor political party is also usually short on money, so I think the level of "political research" would be very primitive.

The article is written by DarrenRay, who is one the student union leaders mentioned in University of Melbourne student services, which links to Stephen Luntz. Judging by DarrenRay's sentiments expressed on his userpage and the controversy on his talk page (and his large quantity of engaging other editors) - I feel that he has a conflict of interest as he appears to have had political dealings with Mr Stephen Luntz, and also that Mr Darren Ray has been stridently involved in edit conflicts over the UniMelb union issues, while he is the subject of some of the activities described in the article, and is currently involved in legal battles over the matter.

Darren can probably speeak for himself but I personally strongly object to the personal vilifying going on here, as per Blbguyen's comments. I think he will object strongest to being call a "left-wing" anything. Either way stop the personal abuse please. --2006BC 06:47, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I am not impressed. I would appreciate its immediate withdrawal. See WP:RPA DarrenRay 06:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. A 36 year old student activist and holder of a behind the scenes job with the Victorian Greens. A search of an Australian newspaper index shows five mentions related to the Victorian election in 2002. Capitalistroadster 05:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 05:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)(UTC)
  • Delete. nn. Garglebutt / (talk) 05:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as nn. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 05:46, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Clearly notable, as a senior Greens party official. --2006BC 06:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Note - Above user is a past president of the MUSU, and is a political ally of DarrenRay, both of whom have political dealings with the subject of the article.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 06:38, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Note - I make no secret of who I am. Check my user page. --2006BC 06:45, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Notable, involved in the Greens likely to be successful state election campaign as its electoral analyst, go do a Google search and you'll see several listings of his role in Greens campaigns. Seems notable enough. And unlike other contributors I am not anonymous/pseudonymous. DarrenRay 06:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment WP:NOT a crystal ball wrt whether Greens will win a seat, they haven't. Also, the author of the article, who.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Please remove your personal attacks if you expect any response from me. DarrenRay 07:37, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Would you act this way if your identity was known, calling people hacks and other insults? I doubt it. Don't take the bait Darren. This nomination was the result of stalking through your edits by someone who is acting like he has some personal gripe with you. Very sad. --2006BC 07:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I have cited your conflicts of interest because you have declared them. If you did not reveal your identity, this would not matter, because very many similar pages about yet-to-be-elected aspiring politicians are deleted on a consistent basis. You are welcome to look through my edit history and fix up any conflicts of interest and POV that I may have. If I was a famous sportsperson, I would probably be trying to make money, not be writing articles on wikipedia. If you would like to know who I am, look at my userpage and follow the links Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 08:09, 8 March 2006 (UTC).
The point is I don't want to know who you are. I'd just like you to stop the personal attacks and insults and throwing your weight around. It's just completely unnecessary. --2006BC 08:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak procedural keep as a point-making (but not WP:POINT) nomination. If he's non-notable, we can delete him later. — Adrian Lamo ·· 07:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Abstain — Adrian Lamo ·· 08:21, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete; non-notable. --Roisterer 08:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete nn. --Terence Ong 10:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as non-notable, WP:NOT a crystal ball. Failed candidates are not generally considered notable, yet-to-be candidates very obviously even less so. Author's comments lead to valid concenrs about POV, and it is extremely hard to verify this subject from reliable sources. Just zis Guy you know? 13:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Ambi 23:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete nn --kingboyk 02:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as non-notable. -- Ian ≡ talk 04:53, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.