Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St Thomas' College, Matale

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Dreadstar † 05:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] St Thomas' College, Matale

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There is no information provided in this article. Nitraven (talk) 12:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

• Comment: why not add them?. There appears to be information available. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 14:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —Noroton (talk) 17:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy delete: CSD A1: Empty. It's empty, completely empty. As for "why not add content," how about "why preserve a place holder?" When someone has something to say and can make legitimate claims for encyclopedic content, we can argue. As it is, this is not AfD, but CSD. Utgard Loki (talk) 17:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
  • The information in the article and available online identifies what the subject is and where it is, a public secondary school located in Matale, Central Province, Sri Lanka. There's enough to avoid a speedy. • Gene93k (talk) 17:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete unless someone can suggest a good redirect target; it hasn't enough info to be useful. DoubleBlue (Talk) 17:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Matale awaiting expansion. DoubleBlue (Talk) 17:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Redirect either to Matale or else if there is a page on their hockey team then redirect this to that page for now. Low Sea (talk) 23:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• Comment. Still looking for WP:RS info about the school itself, however its hockey program gets lots of RS coverage. Multiple athletic titles to add if only we can source the basics. Unfortunately, this school does not appear to have a website. • Gene93k (talk) 17:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment, that was what got me too, their hockey team is apparently more notable than the school itself as nothing comes up under St. Thomas, Saint Thomas, St Thomas in various combos of quotes and not with Matale. And re: "empty" I'd have loved to speedy it but I knew it would get turned down. What we need on this is probably local help for non-web sources. College is so vague across nations, I've seen it used from primary school to the US construct. If we can add something I'd like to. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 18:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete or redirect: no content, no claim to notability. CRGreathouse (t | c) 18:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per editing policy, which the nominator and others appear to be disregarding. With all these house inspectors around it's a wonder anything ever gets built. I've added another notable alumnus, and if there's anyone more notable in South Asia than an international hockey player it's a test cricketer! Phil Bridger (talk) 11:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep As usual for secondary schools, once someone looks for material, it can be found. That's why we have the reasonable practice of not deleting such articles. For such schools, we usually put the sports information on the main page, not a separate article for a notable team. DGG (talk) 15:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep & Redirect to Matale, which can contain all this information. The article can be recreated when there are are sources for an actual article. This shows no immediate promise of becoming an article. Noroton (talk) 21:59, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Immediate is not the usual standard. The likelihood of eventual expansion beyond a stub or directory entry is usually good enough. Sources found so far indicate this school has at least 100 years of history. Since this school is offline, expansion will just take more time. • Gene93k (talk) 22:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per DGG, clearly information about this school is available. The cricket squad is even briefly mentioned in a recent news story. It strikes me as somewhat parochial to assume this secondary school is not notable enough just because it's a bit more difficult to find sources. I imagine the notability of this school is about on a level with Bethany College (Lindsborg, Kansas) or Hutchinson Community College (which between them have exactly zero third party reliable sources) yet no one is calling for those to be deleted (probably no one will, and I think a comparison here is quite relevant despite WP:OTHERSTUFF). We allow articles on basically every high school in the United States - surely a college in Sri Lanka whose athletics are covered in the press is worthy of an article.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 23:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - per persuasive arguments, above. Clearly notable as a high school and we need to avoid bias against schools outside the anglosphere. TerriersFan (talk) 21:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per notable alumni and secondary source coverage already found. The material to expand the stub is out there, but not necessary online for our convenience. • Gene93k (talk) 21:53, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

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