Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spul'u'kwuks Elementary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to School District 38 Richmond. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 05:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spul'u'kwuks Elementary School

Spul'u'kwuks Elementary School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

This article was prod'ed by another member, with the reason stated as "School article with absolutely no notability asserted; the page is nothing more than a directory listing; only 86 total and 40 unique Google hits for the school's name, inc. WP and mirrors, and absolutely none of them are anything besides trivial mentions and directory listings." I'm posting it here not because I want it deleted but rather I want a proper deletion debate first. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 00:02, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. 274 Google hits ([1]). Bigtop 00:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. No notability whatsoever.Ganfon 01:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nominations. Wikipedia is not a directory. Unless this school becomes particularly notable.... --Dennisthe2 01:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. This is not noteworthy. Darkwhistle 02:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as original prodder (note: I found this page using Special:Random; I wasn't targeting school articles). There is no notability of any kind asserted, and nothing on Google suggests otherwise. This is a simple directory listing, and there are no non-trivial reliable sources presented. -- Kicking222 03:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

• Nobody's accusing you of targeting school articles, as far as I can tell. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 04:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Notability might be controversial, so I'm going with the utter lack of sources here. -Amarkov ^blah_edits 03:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - does not even appear to meet guidelines under WP:SCHOOL --Haemo 05:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletions. -- SkierRMH 07:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, WP:SCHOOL and WP:V. SkierRMH 07:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• REDIRECT to Richmond, British Columbia per WP:SCHOOLS.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 10:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and WP:SCHOOL. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 17:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. FirefoxMan 17:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I think if we rewrite this article it can be proved useful. Many other elementry schools have articles and seem to be okay. Rasillon 20:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete or Merge into Schools in Richmond, British Columbia. There is no need for a separate article for every elementary and middle school in a city - especially when the only thing that can be said is "it exists". Perhaps a group article for such cities is more appropriate. Resolute 23:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep verifiable and NPOV schools. DoubleBlue (Talk) 23:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Um... and do you have sources which would make it verifiable? -Amarkov ^blah_edits 03:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Yes, you will find plenty of references at Spul'u'kwuks Elementary School. DoubleBlue (Talk) 01:51, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
      • How about per WP:V, WP:N, and WP:RS? Try through those - and in particularly, WP:N. I think the concern isn't so much that the school is verifiable, but that the school is notable and that the notability is verifiable. --Dennisthe2 04:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
        • Actually, my concern is that the only information which is verifiable is some statistics, which is not enough for an article. -Amarkov ^blah_edits 05:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
          • There is no consensus on notability for schools. In such cases, the only rule is that the article be verifiable and NPOV. None of the policies or guidelines you direct me to says that a verifiable and NPOV article on a school, even if one assumes notability is not established, should be deleted. The proposal at WP:SCHOOL recommends, at worst, to merge to the community or school district. DoubleBlue (Talk) 01:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom -   •The RSJ•   Talk | Sign Here 01:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: the lack of Google hits might be a result of the school's unusual name -- some people may spell the school's name slightly differently (ie. without the apostraphes). -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 02:09, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Response Zero Google hits... so nope. -- Kicking222 13:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
    • 277 Google hits spelled correctly. DoubleBlue (Talk) 01:54, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
    • That was merely one example... -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 04:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Not opposed to merge/redirect. Shimeru 09:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. GreenJoe 18:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - There's plenty of precedent for keeping school articles, this is a stub, not a deletion candidate - with some expansion I'm sure it would be a fine article -- Chabuk ^{[ T • C ]} 19:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Richmond, British Columbia per the proposed WP:SCHOOLS guideline, current references meet verifiable standards so no objection to keeping it either. Yamaguchi先生 03:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Does not assert notability in any way. There is plenty of precedent for deleting useless stubs which this has been for over 6 months. At present, this is a directory listing, and so violates WP:NOT#DIR. Ohconfucius 05:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Re-direct to School District 38 Richmond, which is the school board which has jurisdiction over this school, until it becomes notable. A redirect is the recommended course of action under the proposed WP:SCHOOL, as opposed to a delete. Luke! 05:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to School District 38 Richmond per above and WP:LOCAL. The various proposed school-related guidelines also suggest merge/redirecting in situations like this. RFerreira 02:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge or Redirect per commenters above. Zadernet 04:36, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.