Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spitting fetishism
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Although spitting is evidently practiced in pornography, consensus finds lack of verification of the existence of a clinical fetish. Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Spitting fetishism
I can't find any reliable sources to verify the existence of this. h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 20:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:V. --Brewcrewer (talk) 20:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep/Merge -- Definitely verifiable, though the content may be short enough to warrant becoming a subsection in a larger "fetish" article. With just one brief Google I turned up this entry at Informed Consent, and as a purveyor of porn I can tell you that it is common in BDSM porn, and particularly prevalent in FemDom or LezDom porn. With some further digging one should be able to find more sources to back this up, particularly if there are first-hand accounts out there (interviews and the like) which pass WP:V; porn stars are not shy about discussing fetishes, usually. -- Y|yukichigai (ramble argue check) 23:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. I guess I don't have to warn you about these example sites being explicit [1] [2]. --Easyas12c (talk) 23:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Please see WP:RS. Porn sites on a topic do not confer notability.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 23:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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- ...which would matter if it were being nominated for deletion due to notability issues. Nothing in WP:RS precludes those sites from verifying that the fetish does exist. -- Y|yukichigai (ramble argue check) 20:05, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Yes it does. Porn sites are not made for information and have absolutely no reputation for being truthful or accurate. The fact that the sites exist, I suppose, can be primary-sourced by the site itself, but that's as far as it goes. Any more interesting implication of the existence of the site would be WP:OR. Mangojuicetalk 14:47, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- I wouldn't object to a merge and redirect with a similar article if anyone finds at least one reliable source documenting that spitting fetish even exists.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 06:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tikiwont (talk) 13:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, or redirect to Salirophila. The source Yukichigai found doesn't back up that spitting is a fetish, just that it's part of some BDSM activities. If this is even recognized at all it is surely a subfetish of Salirophilia. Mangojuicetalk 14:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Although "spitting" exists as a preference or pleasurable act to a minority of consumers of adult entertainment, I don't think that "spitting" has been recorded as an acute clinical fetish, or fetishized to any notable degree outside the US porn industry. The 'porn context' is not a comprehensive or established source of insight into fetishism, therefore the article should be deleted. 194.112.32.101 (talk) 21:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete/Redirect per Mangojuice (hmm...). Fetishes are notable by their recognition as such, and this is generally a medical/psychological issue. I see nothing that establishes such a known proclivity here. Epthorn (talk) 08:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.