Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spetsnaz (band)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 08:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Spetsnaz (band)
Non-notable fails WP:BAND few Ghits with Wikipedia top of the list, their website [1] is down, very low Alexa rank [2] Amazon.com nothing [3]. The word Spetsnaz is also a Russian word for special forces or training and generates a lot more traffic so as not to confuse.--John Lake 05:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC) John Lake 05:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I give up and bow to my fellow editors Nomination withdrawn please close.--John Lake 23:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - well-known exponents of the EBM scene in Europe, I've heard their music plenty of times in the UK and Australia. Note there is also an article on the French Wikipedia, and the band is mentioned in the Electronic body music article. Regarding WP:BAND, seems to meets item 4, more than two albums on their Swedish label (SubSpace Communications) who also release major EBM act Covenant. Their German label Out of Line Music, also have Combichrist and Icon of Coil on their roster. Mentioned frequently in Release Magazine (Sweden) and Re:Gen magazine (USA). And finally, regarding Google hits, I get 100,000 for "spetsnaz band" and 88,400 for "spetsnaz ebm" - if you're going to cite low Ghits as "evidence" of non-notability, please include a link to your search so that others can verify your assertion. --Canley 08:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Ghits without quotes [4], with quotes [5] 1-10 of about 46 for "Spetsnaz band". I googled their website [6] WP:WEB
- on Alexa not the band itself and got 1,964,573.--John Lake 01:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: can I also just point out that your Amazon search was flawed? You searched for "Spetsnaz band" which returns no results. If you search for "Spetsnaz" in the Music category, you get 4 results: [7]. Re: the broken website and low Alexa rank, please remember this is WP:BAND not WP:WEB. --Canley 19:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep notable, verifiable. Tulkolahten 17:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete with less than 46 Ghits in quotes and an Alexa rank over a million they don't seem to notable to me, also their first listed track in the article is a demo.--Dakota 05:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Comment: Sorry, I hate it when people like me keep butting in to AfD discussions after they've had their say, but this nomination is a set of highly flawed searches. Why would a reference in, say, a magazine say "Spetsnaz band" like that? That's what quotes in Google mean - searching for that exact phrase. Without the quotes I got 100,000 hits. And as I said to the nominator: the Alexa rank of the band's website means nothing... this is WP:BAND notability, not WP:WEB notability - this is not an article about the band's website!--Canley 06:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- I am aware of the number of Ghits but Wikipedia is the top one. Their Alexa traffic rank is low at over a million.--Dakota 06:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Google hits are definitely not a relevant deletion criterion, there are hundreds of articles with a few hits only but very notable. You cannot say this is not notable because Google hasn't indexed it yet. Tulkolahten 22:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Ghits are used for notability on Afd very often.--John Lake 23:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep well known representative of their genre. Canley makes some very valid arguments. ALKIVAR™ ☢ 21:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
