Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Speedman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. --Ezeu 18:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedman

One person's invented martial art, no evidence of notability, seems like self-promotion -- listing the person as well NawlinWiki 15:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Nonnotable. Helicoptor 15:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Reads as an advert for a flavour of kenpo, escrima or krav maga, with no claim of notability.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  15:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, NN. 'Speedman martial arts' turns up 29,300 google hits, all related to Scott Speedman, save this article. Hoax? Kariià 22:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Notable martial arts style. Featured in black belt magazine.

It is not a hoax, please do better research. --Masssiveego 10:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• • Note (1) The above "Keep" vote is by the author of the article. (2) I searched the website of Black Belt magazine [1] and got no results for "Speedman" or "La Tourrette". NawlinWiki 11:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The above made no attempt to email info@thespeedman.com or webmaster@thespeedman.com and ask which black belt magazine speedman was featured in, and disregarded the sale of speedman books in Amazon.com. It is recommand if the above would like to know, they should at try email, and assume "good faith". Which the email was listed on http://www.thespeedman.com/ --Masssiveego 05:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• • • Um, no. The article itself should be verifiable without an editor having to email someone (at an email address not listed in the article). And it's reasonable to assume that if you say something is "featured in black belt magazine", that one doesn't have to look beyond a magazine called "Black Belt magazine". If you have verifiable secondary sources proving this person's notability, post them -- don't make us play treasure hunt. NawlinWiki 17:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. And how would you know that no one made an attempt to contact that email address? In any case, there seems to be little trace of speedman being featured in black-belt magazine but a lot of google hits mention his repetitive advertising in that same magazine. Quite a different perspective. Pascal.Tesson 05:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

--NawlinWiki is continuing the pattern petty bothersome vandalism of in asking to delete articles with no assumption of good faith, and with no attempt to verify a website by asking it's author. This lack of valid research by Nawlinwiki shows that this article was put up for deletion in bad faith.

Pascal.tesson is equally wrong as if a email was attempted, they would have learned there was an article written about Speedman, as well as adversting, and posted such attempts for such information here as proof that the person was invalid. Google is not the only source of research that will verify articles that exist from a publication. As it's clearly obvious not everything is on the internet. Pascal.tesson should clearly have known that there are other valid sources then the internet itself. --Masssiveego 06:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

This martial art style is not a hoax, it is valid, notable and it is real. Please do better research before making false accusations. As it's clear most who have voted here have done little to research the article other then using google. --Masssiveego 06:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Contact information for speedman.

Telephone

   541-535-3188

FAX

   (541)-535-8038

Postal address

   6252 Dark Hollow Way
   Medford, OR  97501

Electronic mail

   General Information: info@thespeedman.com
   Sales: sales@thespeedman.com
   Customer Support: support@thespeedman.com
   Webmaster: webmaster@thespeedman.com

Doctor La Tourrette can be contacted at: docspeed@cdsnet.net

--Masssiveego 06:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, no reliable sources. The guy who invented it does not qualify. I would like to see some mainstream media coverage, at least. Stifle (talk) 12:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

As stated before the above style was covered by an article in "Black Belt Magazine." If you wish to know which article, please contact above. --Masssiveego 19:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Seems to be commercial advertising for a non-notable subject. Dabbler 11:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Dabbler could have made the effort to wikify the article and is welcome to edit it at any time. The subject it self is notable as more then 10,000 have heard or seen about speedman in blackbelt magazine. --Masssiveego 18:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.