Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Specialities of France

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sango123 00:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Specialities of France

Basically a list without the name, suffers from typical list issues. Minimal to no criteria for inclusion, no independant verification, no cited secondary sources for most of the page's content. Note on page strongly suggests this is original research. Serpent's Choice 09:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per nom. Dlyons493 Talk 11:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as litcruft. Thε Halo ^Θ 12:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I would not be adverse to a list of foodstuffs covered by Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée however. Viridae^Talk 13:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

As something to note, that already exists. The main Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée article includes links to three lists, for wines, liqueurs, and most germane to this AfD, cheeses granted AOC status. So, in addition to my previous objections, the article under discussion is redundant. Serpent's Choice 19:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment As per formulated title, this list should include not only products with AOC, such as cheese and wines, but also local specialties such as Castelnaudary Cassoult, piment d'Espelette, Perigord foie gras and confit... it needs not be redundant at all --Svartalf 02:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The problem then goes back to the lack of verifiable criteria for inclusion. What standard needs to be set to determine if a product is a local specialty? And how local do these specialties need to be? Would a cheese qualify if its production was unique to a commune? To a département? To a région? And once we try to expand this to any sort of recipe, worse problems arise. Without verifiable listing requirements, this is an invitation for everyone with a French grandmother to grant "local specialty" status to their favorite family recipe. Of course, if some appropriately-documented criteria for inclusion can be found, that would assuage many of my concerns. Serpent's Choice 04:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nominator. JIP | Talk 18:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep So it's a list, so it needs to be improved and expanded so it will be if not deleted. --Svartalf 02:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:OR. -- Koffieyahoo 06:16, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, as bad OR. Emmental, a speciality of France? Ha. Sandstein 20:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC) Sandstein 20:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.