Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spaceman Gary Bell
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Fram (talk) 15:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Spaceman Gary Bell
Non-notable local radio host. No reliable sources cited. Article has been tagged with notability concerns since March. Caknuck 18:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
While a local host, I wouldn't call him non-notable. Those who have listened to Gary Bell know that he's absolutely insane, and is the living embodiment of the con spiracy theorist. He's worth an entry because he could be the formal definition of "kook" or "whack-job". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.170.195.66 (talk) 17:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Spaceman does present himself as completely insane, and yet is wildly entertaining and has managed to establish a fan base. His integration of NLP and other social engineering tactics within the show (a first?) should most definitely be considered as well. Furthermore, national news radio stations don't count as reliable sources?GloomyRobot (talk) 21:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- — GloomyRobot (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 16:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:BIO, majority of Google hits are Wikipedia mirrors. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 16:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Ten Pound Hammer. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 17:01, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletions. -- A. B. (talk) 18:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. I have a strong feeling that the missing sourcing for this article could be dug up with some effort. Unless we are to disbelieve the statement that he has been taken off the air on numerous occasions, he must surely have generated some media buzz. So my educated guess is that notability is not the issue and that finding the requisite sources not justify an AfD but rather a maintenance tag. __meco (talk) 23:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Here are the notability policies by which the article may survive this AfD:
- Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.
- Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.
- If any of these two can be documented from independent sources, then the article is a keeper. I doubt that Bell has a large fan base, but if he is as insane a conspiracy theorist as stated above, then he would have the cult following to show for it. --Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 23:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Normally, blogs are not enough to establish a person's notability, but this case is special. We are looking for a cult following, which means one shouldn't expect much coverage in mainstream media, but extensive coverage in alternate sources such as blogs. It's not a matter of whether each individual blog is reliable, it's a matter of how many blogs speak about Bell. Google returns this[1]. Additionally, at least one conspiracy theory site features him prominently. See this[2]. I have to say this site is Toronto-based, but it does not seem to be otherwise related to Bell. --Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 13:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Other than Wikipedia mirrors, there doesn't seem to be much said about this subject. Fan popularity aside, some independent sources indicating importance should be required to keep this article. --Stormbay (talk) 22:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete unless some sources establishing the world has noticed him are provided. Nuttah (talk) 12:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.