Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Space (NewsRadio episode)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge to NewsRadio season 3. Article does not demonstrate stand-alone notability. Some of this information is already present there. Summary material missing has been incorporated. Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:07, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Space (NewsRadio episode)

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This episode does not conform to the standards set by WP:EPISODE, so it currently fails WP:N. There is no assertion for improvement. TTN (talk) 19:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete as per nom. RMHED (talk) 19:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge - Sorry, but I don't feel this is a "good faith" AfD. The article was merged by TTN some time back, a very brief back-and-forth revert occured between him and another editor, then that editor added some material to the article. It sat as is for two weeks until a "prod" template was added earlier today. The "prod" was removed (by me), and TTN promptly registered the AfD request. I think the more appropriate process would be to rexamine the article in terms of merging, per the review process. --Ckatzchatspy 20:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Further to this, there were a total of three NewsRadio articles where the same editor reverted TTN's redirects at the same time. With both of the other articles, TTN just restored the redirect - after nominating this article for deletion. I see no reason to single this article out for deletion, especially given the oft-stated rationale that merges are better because they preserve the article history. --Ckatzchatspy 20:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • The review process has been dead for quite some time, so this is the only other venue available. TTN (talk) 20:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Those will also be nominated for deletion if they are brought back. The reason this one is up for deletion is because I knew that it wouldn't stay redirected, though the others are wild cards. Of course keeping the history is better, but when fans get in the way, this is the only other option. TTN (talk) 20:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unless sources demonstrating notability are found. Redirecting is pointless. AnteaterZot (talk) 23:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep as per CKatz. --Maniwar (talk) 00:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete NN fails WP:EPISODE. RMHED (talk) 01:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
    Whoops. RMHED (talk) 00:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: Three of the four "delete" supporters have used WP:EPISODE as their rationale for opposing the article. It should be noted that WP:EPISODE specifically states "Avoid listing episodes for AfD unless they are completely unverifiable and original research." As this article is neither "unverifiable" or "original research", the only option would be a redirect - not deletion. --Ckatzchatspy 01:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
The review process was never strongly supported, and I doubt it could or will ever work. This process seems to work fine, redirect the article if that is contested bring it to AFD. There is a pretty clear consensus from recent AFD's that these articles are not appropriate for wikipedia. While I would like to see a better process for handling issues at this point AFD is the only way to handle issues without things getting lost in endless consensus debates. Ridernyc (talk) 03:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect if there is a list of news radio episodes send it there. Ridernyc (talk) 03:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete and Redirect as above. Take your pick per WP:NOT#PLOT, WP:V, WP:FICT, WP:EPISODES. It fails 'em all. Eusebeus 20:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep with no prejudice to a merge and/or redirect per WP:EPISODE's request not to AfD Will (talk) 00:51, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge and/or redirect to NewsRadio season 3, or keep if the DVD commentary track can serve as a secondary source to establish notability (other reliable sources probably exist, but not necessarily easily found online). DHowell 22:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete... I'm not sure what sort of drama is going on with the editors regarding these episodes but this one simply fails to establish notability. It could be merged into a season page or recreated if notability is created/found, but currently there is nothing there. Epthorn (talk) 08:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.