Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Gate High School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (Non admin closure). —Qst 18:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South Gate High School

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Nothing is asserted (let alone sourced) about the notability of this school. Goochelaar (talk) 16:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep and Clean-up - the school is notable but just requires a clean up to keep it in line with the School's WikiProject. ScarianTalk 16:49, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. —Camaron1 | Chris 21:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - 3,500 student high school with notable alumni. Plainly notable. TerriersFan (talk) 21:44, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I don't think the alumni make the school notable (IMO,they seldom do -- notability isn't inherited) but the very large demonstration probably qualifies. I'd have to look into it further to decide, and since this article has strong support I'll simply allow the consensus to speak for itself rather than waste time looking further into this. CRGreathouse (t | c) 15:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Nothing notable about this school (notable alumni doesn't mean squat IMO, just about every school that has been around at least 20 years will have notable alumni). TJ Spyke 21:59, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep as notable. High school of two members of Slayer. Big school with 3500 kids. Bearian'sBooties (talk) 22:07, 17 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearian'sBooties (talk • contribs)
  • Keep Notable alumni and accomplishments backed up by reliable and verifiable sources satisfies the Wikipedia:Notability standard. Alansohn (talk) 23:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep as Alansohn said. --Ryan (talk) 23:26, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep AFAIC High School = notable. RMHED (talk) 01:07, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Per above comments for keep. The school is notable. 3500 kids is a lot. An effort has been made to supply references. LordHarris (talk) 08:21, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:OUTCOMES, high schools are considered inherently notable (unless I'm wrong). Even if I am wrong about that, this school seems to meet WP:RS. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 16:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Comment to all of the above It seems to me that for some reason some editors tend to overlook the guidelines about notability. They say nowhere that a school (high or otherwise) is inherently notable: they say that multiple, independent, reliable sources must have covered the subject of an article, if it is to be considered notable. (In particular, WP:OUTCOMES just mention the empiric fact that often the debates about deletion of articles about (high) schools end in no consensus and in the articles being kept.)

As to the sources added to this article, they mostly mention fleetingly the school, rather than being sources about it. If a newspaper story mentions a guy having tripped over a stone, this does not make the guy notable--much less the stone. If a notable singer or drummer went to a given school, this does not make the school notable. Perhaps he used to eat hot dogs from a cart at the corner: this does not make the cart notable (see WP:NOTINHERITED). Goochelaar (talk) 17:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep - Like most high schools it has a variety of sources (while some are not exclusive to the topic they are not trivial) in the article and a search reveals that there are more available which allows it to meet WP:N, I do not see how deletion is necessary. Camaron1 | Chris 21:10, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep — There is no consensus on High School notability criteria. But this page satisfies my personal criteria. — RJH (talk) 20:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep - I thought it was agreed that most high schools were notable. It is certainly a large school and most of its notable alumni seem only to have sporting acheivements. This is only marginally notable, but I am happy for the article to stay. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Schools, like everything else (including presidents) should stand on their OWN notability, not that of someone who happened to go there. This article, however, has outside sources about events that are at least an attempt to establish notability. It's not all that notable, but it's notable enough not to delete. Epthorn (talk) 11:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.