Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soda Battery

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The result of the debate was not easy to work out. There appears to be no consensus for an outright deletion, but there does some to be some sort of feeling that the content be discarded. I am therefore calling this one a redirect to lemon battery which is the most suggested target. Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:01, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Soda Battery

Not notable, probable hoax, neologism. 0 Google hits (caustic soda is most certainly not soda pop). More garbage from Andrew Lin, the "stop drinking soda" vandal. See Wikipedia:Requests for comment/68.170.0.238 - Jersyko talk 00:49, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. I don't see how a simple battery with an electrolyte that happens to be soda is article-worthy. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 01:01, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete It's better than most of his other articles, but I don't think it should stand on its own. Do we have an article on homemade batteries? --Xcali 01:05, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. We have an article on the Lemon battery. (Google search [1]). I know that lemon batteries work, but that article's content needs work. Maybe the two could be merged in some way. --Barfooz (talk) 01:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. A "Homemade battery" article would be great. There are many things that can be used for such a battery, but the explanation for most or all is pretty simple (use __ as an electrolyte between zinc and copper) -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 02:27, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. I've experimented with simple Galvanic cells before. Instead of being composed of two half cells that each contain an electrolyte and an electrode (like our article states), simple Galvanic cells have one whole cell that contains one electrolyte and two electrodes. This is what the guy is describing. There are different electrolytes that you could use (soda, lemon juice, salt water, etc.), but these all are not practical for use because the cell runs out of juice within a few hours, and the voltage generated is low, even when connected in series. There is almost no use for these homemade batteries except in a science fair project. In my opinion, they aren't really notable because they aren't really practical. (Preceding comment by Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 02:27, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC))
  • Comment. Impracticality shouldn't constitute non-notability. Fusion power is impractical at this point. I don't know enough about this subject but by your description it sounds like this whole topic needs an article. --Barfooz (talk) 03:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to Battery_(electricity) and add a brief note somewhere on "novelty batteries" that simply mention that some people are amused by making batteries in which lemons, potatoes, soft drinks, etc. are used as electrolytes. Dpbsmith (talk) 18:43, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC). On second thought, Redirect to Lemon_battery and let that pretty good article, under that title, expand slightly to cover the whole genre of homemade batteries that are fun and illustrate principles but are of no real practical use (i.e. add a mention there of other electrolytes that can be used). Should I be pedantic and point out that strictly speaking the word battery refers to an assemblage of more than one cell connected in series? I.e. you have a 1.5V AA cell but a 9V battery. Dpbsmith (talk) 18:48, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Lemon battery as the best-known example of that class of home-made batteries. --Carnildo 21:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Lemon battery. Andrew pmk 20:32, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - Nonsense 68.170.0.238 15:05, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment - the above anon vote was, perplexingly, cast by the article's creator. Reverse psychology, perhaps? - Jersyko talk 15:55, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect as above, might even be an idea to protect the redirect based on the number of anti soft-drink related articles with suspiciously all-capped-first-letter titles we've had recreated after VFD's lately... --Kiand 19:32, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delectable as non-potable. The so-called "battery" is just a salt. Article is merely lyte froth and should be canned.
• Merge with Lemon Battery into a Homemade Battery page. I agree that feasibility should not be a criterion. The body is not feasible to use as a capacitor, but everyone knows about the process of rubbing your socks on carpet and then shocking someone. -Phantym 07:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. Nuclear fusion, however, can produce large amounts of energy (like the Sun) whereas a homemade battery cannot. By "impractical", I assume the meaning not useful, or not capable of being turned to use instead of not possible. Nuclear fusion would indeed be useful, but a homemade battery would generate little voltage. I think that sort of practical usefulness in the real world should be a criterion. WPPWAH 18:26, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect without merge. If you make "Soda battery" a section at Lemon battery, I will personally go to your user page and slap you. The soda is irrelevant; AFAIK this experiment works just as well with distilled water. --Smack (talk) 05:54, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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