Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sobrante Park, Oakland, California

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy Keep, bad faith nom. GlassCobra 09:34, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sobrante Park, Oakland, California

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This article is entirely unreferenced and has been so since December, 2007. It does not assert its notability and what it does assert is not verifiable. The article is riddled with BLP violations which make unsubstantiated claims that this is the most dangerous neighborhood of all of Oakland. The article is written horribly with statements like "It is somewhat like a maze, as there is one way in, and one way out." are extremely sophomoric and just poorly stated. BLP violations also include its alleged reputation for "heroin dealings" which should probably be stated as heroin sales or illicit street sales of the drug heroin. Anyway, this article just doesn't meet WP:N and its been around long enough with enough cleanup and unreferenced templatage to assume it's not going to happen any time soon. CholgatalK! 00:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet notice: the nominator of this article is a suspected abusive sockpuppet account. Please see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Boomgaylove.Wikidemo (talk) 20:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, this article should be deleted since it does not meet WP:N and has serious BLP violations and does not have any RS.CholgatalK! 00:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment BLP deals with living people, it does not apply here. V-train (talk) 00:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Delete fails WP:N and WP:RS.  Esradekan Gibb  "Talk" 01:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Reviewed and keeping the recommendation to merge and redirect to East Oakland, Oakland, California. Jeepday (talk) 13:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Now that the article has been well sourced, and with the ghits that WikiDemo shows, I change to Merge to East Oakland, Oakland, California. If and when the article develops beyond the statement that it's a rough neighbourhood of East Oakland, then it can be broken out in summary style into its own stand alone article. But at the moment it can grow in context within the parent article where it will be seen by more people. SilkTork *What's YOUR point? 08:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Speedy close and keep - likely bad faith nomination by abusive sockpuppet (see above). Also, neighborhood is clearly notable. I've added one source and some material but if you want 800 news stories[1] and 17,000 hits[2], try google. Short, poorly written articles should be improved, not deleted - and definitely not gamed by sockpuppets.Wikidemo (talk) 20:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep and Speedy Close - nominator blocked indef. as sockpuppet. Bash Kash (talk) 18:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, but barely- tough call, and clearly some issues with this whole nom. I think for now it just needs to be thrown out for bad faith, until someone else is happy to nominate it.JJJ999 (talk) 10:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.