Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/So bad it's good

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splash^talk 00:22, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] So bad it's good

This is an entirely subjective listing of movies, TV shows, etc. Inherently POV. FreplySpang (talk) 20:05, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Entirely too subjective. Perhaps redirect to camp (style)? Gamaliel 20:07, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. - FrancisTyers 20:11, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom. Dlyons493 Talk 21:28, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Punkmorten 21:40, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. VegaDark 01:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Iten 04:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
• If The Golden Turkey Awards had more information I'd recommend a redirect in that direction; unfortunately it doesn't (in fact, it's in need of bolstering itself) -- so delete, although it wouldn't be a bad idea for an article on this involving an authoritative source... or two... or three. B.Wind 20:54, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, already in Cult film, IIRC Sceptre ^(Talk) 21:26, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. - NeoJustin 05:37, December 27, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep -This article needs to be cleaned up and kept. No other source directly covers all concepts of being so bad it's good (The Golden Turkey Awards and camp (style) both only deal with cinema). Most of the links here mention that the subject is noted for being so bad it's good and yet no article exists to explore this concept. This subject is inherently POV, but it is a shared POV that keep certain subjects such as "My Mother the Car" and Low Fidelty music (Wesley Willis, Weird Paul) relevant.--Cenestrad 23:09, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

• The camp (style) article does not "only deal with cinema". Gamaliel 00:47, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
• Sorry your right. The coverage of so bad it's good in cult film is what I should have included. I still like the idea of this article and think it could be made worth keeping. --Cenestrad 04:11, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete per nom TheRingess 04:14, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Expand and Clean up I should point out that I have a vested intrest in this article, as my brother came over and wrote it on my computer after attempting to show what you can use Wikipedia for. He knew that I have a fascination with really bad forms of art, such as Biz Markees "you got what I need" or Plan nine from outer space. While it is true that the nature of these things are subjective I doubt you could find ANYONE to actually make an argument that Biz Markees singing was really good on that song, or that Plan Nine From Outerspace, was actually a cinimaitic masterpiece. On other notes Andy Kauffman and Neil Hamburger were intenionally bad as part of their comedy, so it was in effect their desired result(although this is ussually not the case in other art forms. Mystery Science Theater 3000 was a television show that capitalized on some peoples love of humourly bad cinima

the reason for my brother creating the site was so that (hopefully) others would contribute to it. I had pointed out other examples when I was talking to him GG Allen, whom apparently has SOME real fans according to the article from wikipedia, was left out for said reason. Sammy Terry(a local cheesy horror TV host) was left out for being not well known enough. But in actuallity he hadnt put a great deal of thought into the article, as he was mostly hoping that others would add to it, and I could find reference to other "gems" of entertainment that are "so bad they're good"

Please keep this article and expand on it, as it could prove a valuable link to lesser known works for fans of bad art and I dont know of any other source to find these links... 152.163.100.73 16:58, 28 December 2005.

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• I have tried to make some small improvements to this article. I hope it's deletion will be reconsidered and that it will be given a chance to grow into a full article.--12.205.49.238 20:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

If good art is meant to provoke a reaction, art that is "so bad it's good" certainly meets the standard, although the reaction it provokes is usually not the intended one. Amusement at the blatant lack of talent,or wide-eyeyed looks of disgust are often common. This form of media often gains cult-like status esspecially among younger veiwers or listeners and VH1 has done several programs on songs or videos that are "awesomely bad"

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.