Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slipknot's fourth studio album

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Maxim_{(talk) (contributions)} 17:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Slipknot's fourth studio album

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Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Article shoots itself in the foot in the first line. Will ^(talk) 16:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - per nom. Hasn't even been recorded yet. Zouavman Le Zouave 16:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy keep. It's not crystalballism because it will happen. There are several untitled upcoming albums currently on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohyeahmormons (talk • contribs) 16:56, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

  I'm not against untitled upcoming albums having an article on Wikipedia. However, I'm against articles who are based almost entirely on supposition. The article was created more than 6 months before the album was planning to be recorded! Many things can happen in 6 months: a band member dies, the band disbands, the band goes on hiatus, a band member goes to jail, a band member quits... Zouavman Le Zouave 17:13, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. If it hasn't even been named yet, odds are it's not notable. When it gets a name, re-create it. --UsaSatsui 17:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as unsourced crystal-ballery. Nominator encouraged to combine similar listings like this in the future. Stifle (talk) 18:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. There are plenty of articles on Wikipedia that predict future products. This article adheres to rule 1, rule 2 and rule 3. So it does not breach the policy. Jasca Ducato 20:51, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
• Fails rule 1 as a release is not guaranteed to take place (see Chinese Democracy), and 3 as it "presents speculation". Will ^(talk) 20:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Other than a complete and utter misinterpretation of what WP:Crystal, this article provide sources to demonstrate that a notable album from a notable group is forthcoming. Alansohn 00:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
• 'Delete Article is mostly based on "ifs" and "maybes". LuciferMorgan 20:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
• Extreme (I shouldn't even need to say this) Keep You people are obviously on crack, since there are numerous good sources with all the info on this upcoming release. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Slipknot will, believe it or not, be making a NEW ALBUM! Oh my God, isn't that an amazing concept, that a hugely-popular band will be making a new album while they're still popular? It's not as crazy as it sounds!!!!! (extreme sarcasm is now over) Besides, we'll just have to recreate the page when the album is released.Dark Executioner 21:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

[edit] Comments

• If you read this article, entitled "HEAVIEST SLIPKNOT ALBUM YET!" Roadrunner Records confirm that this album is coming out, and is not speculation. Thus the article does not meet afD criteria. Jasca Ducato 11:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.