Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slavomacedonian

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Minorities in Greece#Christian Orthodox Slavophones Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:28, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slavomacedonian

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Textbook example of a dictionary definition - and in this case not even of an English word, but of a translated Greek term, Σλαβομακεδόνας. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. The nominal subject of the article, the Slavic minority in Greece, is already discussed in Minorities in Greece, so the article seems to be an unnecessary content fork as well. ChrisO (talk) 20:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

• Keep the word is used in many English works, without apostrophes. It does not appear in the OED, but then neither do a lot of things. Currently it can broadly be classed as an epiphet, or euphemism for the ethnic Macedonian community in Greece. In the past it was used more freely, and even by members of that same group. There are a non-insignificant number of articles which cover this term, and its change of use makes it more notable than a mere definition. Compare: "Nigger", "Kike", "Chink", "Paki" etc. - Francis Tyers · 07:08, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Note that this term does not only encompass the Slavic minority in Greece, but is also used as a generic term for ethnic Macedonians so the statement regarding "already discussed" is not quite accurate. - Francis Tyers · 07:15, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. This is a term used in Anglophone academic discourse.--Damac (talk) 07:28, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• • Question Is it? "Slav Macedonian" has been used but I'm unsure about this term. BalkanFever 08:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment It is used in commentary regarding the Greek approach to ethnic Macedonians. It is typically not used to describe ethnic Macedonians directly. - Francis Tyers · 08:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
      • Well, according to a Google Scholar[1]/Google Books[2] search, the term has been used. However, the hyphenated Slavo-Macedonian is far more common in both (former[3] and latter[4]).
      • Perhaps a move would be more appropriate, but Macedonian Slav already redirect to Macedonians (ethnic group). The problem is, of course, how should the article about this minority in Greece be named? How can we differentiate this group from the majority in the Greek part (the subject of two articles, Aegean Macedonia and Macedonia (Greece), reflecting the terms used in different contexts) of the Macedonian region who also self-define themselves as Macedonians?--Damac (talk) 09:31, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
        • As I understand it, the article is meant to be about the term, not about the actual minority, which is explained in Minorities in Greece under the sub-heading "Christian orthodox Slavophones". BalkanFever 09:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
          • Yes, the article is about the term. - Francis Tyers · 10:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. ChrisO is right on this one; this isn't a dictionary, and the term is already treated amply at Macedonia (terminology). ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 07:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep We have similar articles about other ethnic groups, such as this: [5] It is nothing exceptional. I understand why some may find such articles questionable, but since the practice of creation of similar articles exists, I think this one should be kept too. Grandmaster (talk) 07:44, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep The term and its uses is quite relevant and not just a dictionary definition. Though it could use expansion. Dimadick (talk) 09:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
• Merge WP:POVFORK to Macedonians (ethnic group). The subject of the word is the Macedonians (ethnic group), as referred to by the Greeks and some scholars. The term is used mainly for disambiguation purposes (mainly vs the Macedonians (Greek) and the Macedonians (ancient)), but may occasionally be received as "pejorative" without such intent from the speaker necessarily. Those issues should be treated and addressed to in the main article, so as to cover all aspects and all POVs. NikoSilver 19:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
• Merge WP:POVFORK to Macedonians (ethnic group) per N!.JERRY ^talk _contribs 22:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.