Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Skinner (surname)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep --Ichiro 19:27, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Skinner (surname)

Short article providing little context, seems to be insignificant. - Bootstoots 19:26, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

  • My last name is Skinner and I find the information in this stub to be dubiously applied.
  • The article was just created a few minutes ago. If you give it a few days it should be expanded into something much more intesting. I don't understand why it was marked for deletion only moments after being created. I did mark it as a stub to indicate that it was just the begining - James 19:44, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
  • How stupid. That someone would be wandering round looking for new articles to delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.11.90.80 (talk • contribs)
  • Keep. Perfectly encyclopedic. Dysfunktion 20:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Slow delete. Note article creator is James R. Skinner. What makes this surname notable? If this article is really about the surname and not about the notability-not-asserted family, then delete all the information about family motto, family crest, etc. I agree you should get some time to clean up this article, to assert notability, provide references, and remove vanity. --Quarl 21:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Hold off for a few days give the guy a chance then we'll see. --Pboyd04 22:01, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Tagged too soon. -- JJay 22:19, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Ok guess this article is not suitable content? I thought that since I saw other articles about surnames on Wikipedia such as Smith (surname) that such information would be useful. To answer Quarl, nothing makes the Skinner surname more notable than others but I thought Wikipedia would want to gather history and info on all surnames? I guess I should stop working on the article since it appears it will just be deleted anyway. Sorry. --James R. Skinner 22:34, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Wikipedia is not a dictionary of surname meanings. See Wikipedia:Deletion policy/names and surnames. Nor is it a genealogy database. If you want to expand upon the etymology and translations of the name, then please contribute to Skinner. Wiktionary, which is a dictionary, happily deals in the etymologies, translations, and meanings of proper nouns. See Darlington and Hastings for examples. If you want to write a family tree, then get thee to Wikitree! The clan, similarly, is already covered by our article on Clan MacGregor. Uncle G 23:20, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
      • I understand now. I will move the approproate content over to the Skinner article under etymology. Not sure where the right place for the crest info is? I am a bit confused though as to why Clan MacGregor is appropriate for Wikipedia given that Skinner isn't? Is this based on notability?
        • A Scottish clan is not the same thing as a simple group of people who just happen to share a family name. See our article for details. ☺ Uncle G 02:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
        • To whom does this coat of arms actually belong? The article gives the impression that the arms belong to all people by the name of Skinner, but this must obviously be wrong; Skinner is, after all, not an uncommon nam. I assume all persons of this name do not belong to the same family and do not have the right to the same arms. (You also need to be clear about the distinction between a crest and a coat of arms.) u p p l a n d 08:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Etymology of names can be included in Wiktionary. u p p l a n d 08:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Note that the Surnames category contains several articles like this one already on Wikipedia. It seems appropriate to me for them to be here, considering some of the other things on Wikipedia. Logophile 16:49, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Skinmeister 01:56, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.