Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sittner Hall

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was - should be merged - SimonP 13:40, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sittner Hall and Omicron Pi Sigma

Unnecessary advert for a college dorm and society. Other subpages created by anonymous users related to Walla Walla College are also up for VfD. Countless useless stubs should be discouraged. Harro5 03:06, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. I see nothing wrong with having articles about college dormitories. I wasn't aware that dorms advertised, either. Kelly Martin 03:07, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with Walla Walla College. It may be an important college building but it doesn't need an article all to itself. Ganymead 03:13, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge per Ganymead. Colleges may advertise, but individual dorms probably don't need to unless the room selection process at said college is particularly unorthodox... android↔talk 03:21, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep both. They're both good stubs, legible, appear to be factual, and they're too new to have developed. Articles don't start as feature articles on their first day, and frankly, I don't see any reason why these should be deleted even if nothing else is ever added. Further, "Unnecessary" and "Useless" look to me like inflammatory personal POV. --Unfocused 03:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Having read your user page, you are an inclusionist, and I accept that. The section here is not aimed to be POV, in fact, it was merely me writing what I believe to be true. An anonymous user creating numerous subpages about a small-scale college is not Wikipedia, because it doesn't add anything. I would be fine with this info being included on the main Walla Walla College article page, but the anon doesn't believe that should happen. They don't want to play ball, and all I want is for Wikipedia to be free of these sorts of advertisements disguised as mildly-factual stubs. Harro5 04:02, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
    • I think it is self-evident that, contrary to your assertion, this is Wikipedia, and Wikipedia is frequently anonymous users adding knowledge at the fringes. Wikipedia is also a group of consensus decisions about what stays, as evidenced by policy and this VfD. As long as knowledge is labeled, categorized, indexed, and presented in a useful manner, the "need" to merge data or eliminate smaller articles is purely artificial. These articles meet my criteria. Maybe not yours. This shouldn't ever be about limiting or discouraging the participation of anonymous users, quite the opposite! --Unfocused 05:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Harro5, Please don't apply labels to other people. Some consider it an insulting personal attack. I make my vote decisions one by one. Just because you disagree doesn't give you the right to label me. (If I'd applied a label to myself, there would be no objection.)--Unfocused 14:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Verifiable and NPOV. If Omicron Pi Sigma is up for vfd, the article should be tagged as such to allow interested parties to comment here. DoubleBlue (Talk) 04:09, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep both. Fraternities and college dorms are usually notable. Characterizing these articles as "advertisements" is questionable. Kelly Martin 04:12, May 15, 2005 (UTC) (comment: the fraternity wasn't included in this VfD page when I first posted)
• Merge with Walla Walla College. Concur with Ganymead. Megan1967 04:22, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge: This matter was settled months ago, folks. We had all sorts of mess with Dartmouth College. The answer then, and the answer now, is to have this material put into Walla Walla College#Student life. There is no need to destroy the information, but there are multiple sororities, halls, etc. that share names, and having specific iterations as separate articles is foolhardy. Expand your college's article, rather than stranding information in a spot where it will never be found and where it will be without context. Geogre 12:50, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with Walla Walla College. --Calton | Talk 05:52, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge Walla Walla College#Student life Klonimus 06:55, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge as suggested by Geogre, consistent with college-building and college-organization precedents. Barno 18:56, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with Walla Walla College. There is no way that college dorms or other campus buildings deserve their own independent pages, unless incredibly, independently notable (The Inns of Court, perhaps.)
• Merge with Walla Walla College, as reasons stated above. Kel-nage 13:01, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
• No reason not to merge with the college. -R. fiend 21:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

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