Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon Ambrose

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Redirecting is optional. --Coredesat 03:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Simon Ambrose

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  • Delete Not appropriate to suggest leave it and see if this character becomes notable! Surely delete for now then contribute later if time proves him a suitable subject. I live in hope that my pet gerbil may be of global interest at some point in the future but it would counter the purpose of an enclopedia if I submitted an article about him in anticipation.Asnac 10:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Not noteable, only reality TV winners and other succsessful contestants recieve their own articles. Dalejenkins 10:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Simply not true - See American Idol (season 6) - wherein people still in the competition and those who have been eliminated both still have pages e.g. Brandon Rogers (singer). I don't see why different rules should apply to a primetime US show and a primetime UK show. Also, it seems a valid argument that we should wait to see who is successful before deleting articles. Interested in your thoughts. Not a single-purpose account, just a new one and certainly NPOV and not advertising. aewain 13:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - per nom. Fails WP:BIO; Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Ronbo76 12:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: No assertion of notability, being on TV doesn't automatically make one notable. As for the other articles on American Idol contestants, just because there are others like it doesn't mean there should be (this is my way of saying WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS, because that is just way too harsh). IvoShandor 12:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Do not delete - One of the criteria of notability for Entertainers is "Entertainers: actors, comedians, opinion makers, and television personalities with significant roles in notable films, television, stage performances, and other productions. Simon as one of the 12 remaining candidates clearly fulfills the criteria for being notable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.254.147.52 (talk) 12:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC).


  • DELETE - This is an unsourced, badly written article. For all we know it just could be a load of rubbish. If someone (preferably the creator) comes up with sources and other references then maybe it will be kept but from my point of view the single purpose account made this non-wikified article which could be considered as vandalism.
  • Okay. That sounds a little far-fetched. Number 1 - every account starts out with a first contribution or edit. Number 2 - articles that do not have sources are neither necessarily rubbish nor invalid; perhaps they can just do with improvement. Take this one. Laurence Fox. By your criteria that should be deleted, but I think it's perfectly valid, in the users' interest and worthy of including sources when such are available in order to globally increase knowledge, similarly to this. Clearly people have been interested enough to read the article on Simon Ambrose, so I think refinement of the information may well be a better solution than destruction thereof. aewain 14:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Do not delete - I hope I count as a secondary source, I went to Magdalene College with Mr Ambrose for three years. The article is certainly accurate, however as to the question of whether he is newsworthy just yet..... I say give it a few more episodes and he will be. DFitz 82.18.20.68 18:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC) — 82.18.20.68 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Delete not Notable - if you had every person who appeared on a TV programme had an article youd have a big encyclopedia full of unnotable people. WP:BIO violates and also he didnt even win it! I was in a TV audiance once and you could see me on the TV, I think I might have an article if this stays! --PrincessBrat 20:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

DO NOT AMEND PEOPLES VOTES - I WILL NOW WATCH THIS PAGE AS WHOEVER IS THE PERSON WHO CREATED THIS ARTICLE IS AMENDING PEOPLES VOTES AND COMMENTS --PrincessBrat 14:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - totally fails both WP:ATT and WP:BIO. --Haemo 23:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Do not Delete!!! You lot are charming. I may not have reinvented the wheel (yet) but I can tell you that all this idle chit-chat amongst yourselves, makin' out like I am some sort of piece of discarded half-hardened prosciutto parma ham puts me well ill at ease. Delete me and discard me at your peril. I don't care. Some dog will lick me off the floor. And what have actors ever *done*? But what have they actually done??? Apart from talk?? Come on, think about it. They *talk*. Is that noteworthy? If I sing in the shower and record it on Hi-8, will you keep me on here?? Please??? (That is a threat not a promise.) Simon-Le-Don— Simon.ambrose (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Do not delete Magdalene College Magazine 1997 -1998 confirms that Mr. Ambrose matriculated in 1997 and the version for 1999 - 2000 confirms that he graduated then. I've no doubt that a similar publication from Westminster School will confirm that he was there too. As for notability why don't we leave it a few weeks and see if he lasts long enough to make him notable.— 86.134.83.184 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Redirect to The Apprentice (UK series 3), would that be acceptable? Yamaguchi先生 01:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Do not delete - A quick Google search on Mr Ambrose reveals this entry from his school magazine which at least confirms his education and job status at the time of publication: Simon Ambrose RR 1992–1997 ‘After graduating from Cambridge in 2000, I spent four months in New York training with Credit Suisse First Boston and returned to London later that year to work in Equity Sales on the Pan European desk’. Presumably if this was published it was deemed to be sufficiently verified. But as for his leaving date...?
  • Delete nn unless he wins or does something outrageous enough to get in the news. Per WP:CRYSTAL we have no need to hang about with this waiting to see if he does become notable. --Dweller 16:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.