Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Silver Surfer in popular media

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Krimpet (talk) 02:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Silver Surfer in popular media

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A cluttered list of trivial information at best. A prod was removed, with this reason: Removing "useless trivia" notice as every other comic character has such a page. See Batman in popular media. If copyediting, referencing etc required then will do the same. Deletion not required. But in the case of Batman in popular media, it's an actual decent list of Batman movies and so on. This list is just mentions/references to Silver Surfer from what I can see. Silver_Surfer#In_other_media already does a fine job of listing the information. RobJ1981 04:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - Entirely trivia. Batman in popular media is completely different as mentioned above as it is a list of Batman movies, video games, etc, not just things that reference Batman. Wickethewok 08:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
• Merge merge with silver surfer. DBZROCKS 12:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - this is an indiscriminate collection of information and a directory of loosely-associated topics that have no relation to each other past someone saying the words "silver surfer" or a picture of the character appearing on the screen. Strongly oppose merging any of this back to the Silver Surfer article as it is worthless trivia that tells us nothing about the character, the things in which the character appeared or the real world. Otto4711 13:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
• Keep or merge. If it is thought that the mostly self-verifying information in this article is too disorganized, the right thing to do then and now is not to delete it outright, but rather to move it to a subpage of the talk page for the convenience of future editors. Data serventur et ruat cælum. - Smerdis of Tlön 13:54, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

• I am confused as to why one would want to make it more convenient for future editors to add this garbage back to the main article. Otto4711 14:50, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

• First, because it isn't garbage. Much of it, like the extended version Joe Satriani material, never should have been removed in the first instance.

  Second, because this is an established function for subpages. If it is thought that this information is entirely unorganized trivia or "garbage," and somehow unworthy of appearing in the article in chief, the right and respectful thing to do would be to keep it somewhere so that it could be made into something useful, rather than to first ghettoize it by moving it to an article like this, and then proposing its deletion outright. - Smerdis of Tlön 15:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Yet another trivia-fluff fork of a legitimate article. I've said it before but I'll say it again - if your room gets full of junk you take it out to the garbage bin, not build another room in your house to store it in. These are all just pop-culture trivia references and nothing encyclopedic. Does not warrant its own article, does not warrant moving back into the parent article. Arkyan • ^(talk) 16:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Arkyan above said it very well, and I will echo the fact that merging would be a mistake as the parent article will become bloated and unencyclopedic. This info is trivial and is not necessary and is complete and other fancruft. María (habla conmigo) 12:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Just a list of many non noatable and uncited trival apperances of the Silver Surfer. The Placebo Effect 13:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
• Merge with Silver Surfer.--Bluescolor 14:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - as far as I can tell, none of this information is important enough to Silver Surfer to warrant mentioning in that context. The Satriani reference, for instance, exists (and rightly so) at Joe Satriani. Similarly, the reference in Heroes (TV series) can be covered at that episode. The only depiction of importance to the Silver Surfer is the upcoming film (which isn't even in this article). Per WP:AVTRIV, information should be presented in a proper context rather than miscellaneous facts like this. And I think the number of references to NN bands in this article should be convincing as to its deletion: this article is not going to improve. (Oh, and oppose merging, too: there's nothing here worth preserving in the main article). Mangojuice^talk 15:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and oppose merge, as this stuff falls well below the notability threshold, and would only be useless fluff cluttering up the main article. Ford MF 21:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.