Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sikh diet

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete without prejudice towards recreation, provided the article is in a much better state. The article, as it stands, is completely beyond repair. I encourage those calling for this article to be kept and rewritten to do some research and write a new article on this topic.--SB | T 03:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sikh diet

There are some concerns that this article might be a cut-and-paste of copyrighted content, see [1]. Additionally, the article seems to be a bit beyond the capabilities of Wiki cleanup. It is at best an essay or opinion piece with spiritual writings. Delete HappyCamper 14:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment - This is not cut and paste but basically quotations of authors, writers, the Sikh Holy texts and others. There were some opinions that were present, but I have deleted them to create a narrative that complies with the NPOV priciples. Please Re-Read before deletion. --Sikh-history 14:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Blank as it does seem this article is not encyclopedia itself, however, since dietary requirements as part of a religion are acceptable in themselves (see Kashut), and I assume that Sikhism has something similar otherwise this article wouldn't exist, so it should have something in Wikipedia. Thus I can't support deletion without the intent to recreate it. Sikh-history I don't think you understand the problem with your article. You may wish to check the Kashut article for a better model. FrozenPurpleCube 15:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete My word, what a managerie of banner boxes this article has! My word, what a awful article that follows them, too! More of an essay/opinion-piece than an encylopedia article. Might be possible to clean it up, but I certainly don't envy whoever takes it on. It would probably be better to start from scratch. See Kashrut for a much better article about religious dietary laws. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete Well this is an interesting case. I'm not 100% set on deletion because AfD is not here to take care of content issues, but this is one case where I think the article is so poorly done that completely wiping it out and starting from scratch wouldn't be such a bad idea. Of course if someone wants to do a total (sourced) rewrite before the AfD is complete I'd happily change my opinion to keep. On an unrelated note, it appears the originator is a role account (per the message on the userpage) and should probably be dealt with as well.--Isotope23 16:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep if made encyclopedic.Bakaman Bakatalk 02:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - some discussion relating to these pages. MER-C 02:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep This is an important issue for Sikhs and for others. To understand dietary habits of Sikhs (and of other religions) is of significance to life and the importance of diet cannot be denied. Diet plays an key role in the lives of all and it is a matter relating to an important religion of the world. Don't you think that the world would be interested to know about the dietary habits of the Sikhs? We have similar dietary articles for Christianty, Buddhism, etc. and so I think if this article is deleted then in fairness those others should also be deleted.
    The article has been vandalised by User:sikh-history who has a set agenda - See his contributions which all only relate to a one-set-POV. He has since 23 September been changing various articles to his POV in relation to diet and Sikhism. He is deliberately changing this article and other so that they are deleted from the database so that this matter is not brought to the attention of the world as this suits his view.
    I suggest that the article is reverted to the version that I created. --Hari Singh 03:05, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


  • Delete IF Hari Singh insists only on his POV. He is very quick to point the finger at Christians and lable people vandals, when his own point of view is challenged. Sikh scholars agree that meat eating is not an issue within Sikhism, yet Hari Singh keeps on insisting that it is. The article itself has been amended to reflect the views of scholars on this subject yet HariSingh through weasal words insists that his POV be maintained. We are strong supporters of sikh history (warts and all). What we are not in support of is religious fanaticism of users like Hari Singh. We will continue to work with the admins of this site (unlike Harisingh), and strongly support the wikipedia neutral point of view stance. For every Ying there is a Yang. For every action there is a reaction. Keep up the good work and keep fanatics like Hari Singh in check. There is an entire article based on this religious fanatics antics, see http://www.sikh-history.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=002038. We are strongly against the srticle being reverted back to Hari Singh's original. --Sikh-history 10:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. WP:NOT a religious text. How many times do these articles telling people how to be good Sikhs have to come through here? I swear there's at least one a month.–♥ «Charles A. L.» 15:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete or revertion to the neutral (Non-POV) version created by Hari Singh . Totally agree with ;♥ «Charles A. L.», currently it is total POV and original research in meat eater section--Sikh 1 22:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment That's not really what I said. Just to be clear.–♥ «Charles A. L.» 01:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Do Not Revert To HariSingh's biased and opinionated POV. Hari Singh's biased view's should not be allowed to prevail. Also MER-C has established that Hari Singh has made false accusation's about vandalism against --Sikh-history. Apoligies should be made with regard to this. Keep Religious fanatics off Wikipedia.--Sikh-history 07:56, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Please Review current changes to article and major re-write to see if it is acceptable. --Sikh-history 14:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete it all, let God sort it all out... --Roninbk t c e #

15:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep IF Hari Singh & Sikh-history can sort out their differences. Then major rewrite--Sikh 1 02:46, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.