Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shrewsbury shooting

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:24, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shrewsbury shooting

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Nom this looks like a random bit out of a local newspaper that lacks the notability sufficient for inclusion in an encyclopedia. See also WP:NOT. Rklawton 12:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete at this stage. Even if the story does become notable by WP standards (say, it leads to a change in UK gun laws), it should be under Richard Gray (police officer) or something similar - I somehow doubt this is the only shooting ever to take place in the city... — iridescenti (talk to me!) 13:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete fails to state notability. —Tokek 13:26, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, seems to be local, non-notable event. Jacek Kendysz 15:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. not local MasterEditor99 17:26, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Unsure - Definitely not just local and not non-notable. Shootings in the UK aren't very common and this one has gotten a lot of news press in the nationals. The shooting of a police officer in the UK is definitely big and national news that we'll be hearing about for quite some time to come, it made the front page of most of the main newspapers. However the article is likely just a copy and paste job from elsewhere, but I think an article could be made out of it with some editing. Ben W Bell talk 18:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment - I've removed the copyvio stuff. I also admit I used my "American goggles" when considering this nomination. We shoot our police frequently in the U.S. If we can interest more than a 15 year old British schoolboy in making a proper article out of this, I wouldn't oppose keeping this article. Rklawton 19:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as a local, unnotable event. UK police are killed at a rate similar to that of a US city of a tenth the population of the UK, but that doesn't automatically mean every police shooting incident is notable. --Dhartung | Talk 19:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment - In the UK every single police shooting incident is extremely notable, they get a lot of press and often re-open polls on whether or not officers should be armed. Most definitely not a local unnotable event, maybe in North America it would be but in the UK extremely notable. Your own source points out that only 12 officers have been shot in the last 22 years. Ben W Bell talk 19:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment This article is not copied and was rewritten. It is certainly not local and has recieved alot of press. It was on the front page of alot of newspapers as well as on many news channels.Shooting are rare of a police officer in the U.K because of the increased difficulty to get a gun. I think this article should be kept and not just because i made it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MasterEditor99 (talk • contribs)
    • Reply - the version that you posted following my AfD tag - and that I removed - was a copy/paste job. I only removed it after I found the source. Rklawton 20:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. UK police shootings are very notable but this is a news story - Wikipedia is not Wikinews andy 20:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - public gun ownership and police with guns are both significant public policy issues in the UK, so I think we Americans should keep an open mind about this. Rklawton 20:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Correct. The situation here is utterly different from the US. Gun ownership is heavily restricted (with massive public support), most police don't carry guns and don't want to, and police deaths are very rare and are always major national news stories. But sadly this article should be deleted for precisely that reason - it is news. andy 21:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Forget the ten-year test; this fails the ten-day test. Placeholder account 22:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Wikipedia is not Wikinews, and this appears to be copy/pasted from the first reference in any event. If this tragedy proves to be of encyclopedic importance, an article can be created. Edison 23:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Not just a local story, it's been one of the lead items on the national news here for most of today, but as mentioned above it's just a news story at the moment. As Iridiscenti says above, if something further develops from it, no problem re-creating. EliminatorJR Talk 01:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Neutral. Murders of British police officers are very rare and therefore are very notable, and are not just "local" stories as they might be in the United States. However, this article is not really the appropriate one. -- Necrothesp 08:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete At this stage, it appears that it fails the notability requirement so should be deleted now. Recreation could be allowed later, if sourced significant information arises. --Nehrams2020 20:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.