Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shoryuken.com

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Proto::type 09:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shoryuken.com

Non-notable game website does not meet WP:WEB - 83 Ghits (incl wiki).

  • Delete as per my nom. Dlyons493 Talk 03:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment pls refrain from listing number of "hits" on Google, also list why you think it is notable per WP:WEB or WP:NN whichever you think will help. -- Librarianofages 03:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Comment Why not list google hits? They tend to be a fairly good measure of notability for internet phenomenon (not so much for 16th century composers, but for websites? Yes.) Mak (talk) 03:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Because Google is a commercial search engine, they don't publicly list their criteria for choice of websites, we dont know how accurate it all actually is. -- Librarianofages 03:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment The "Google Test" is an established method of taking first-pass snapshots to note a subject's popular usage during AfD discussions (WP:GT). It doesn't suffice on its own for determining notability, but it's hardly an unusual or inaccurate tool when used in combination with other tests. -- H·G (words/works) 03:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment BUT HE HASN'T LISTED ANY OTHER TESTS -- Librarianofages 03:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment to be fair, he in fact indicated that it doesn't meet WP:WEB, which is a whole battery of tests. The fact that it fails the Google Test notwithstanding, it also appears from the nomination that it doesn't live up to any of the other standards going round. BigHaz 05:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment worth mentioning that this was previously deleted on 6 Oct 2005 and again on 19 Oct 2005; however, each of those deletions was due to "patent nonsense" or lack of content. The only similarity here is that each of those versions only had one editor involved, too. H·G (words/works) 03:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Also, Alexa ranking for this site is 114,603, FWIW. -- H·G (words/works) 03:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete weird theories about Google notwithstanding, this obviously isn't a notable website. Admittedly the first Google hit for "Shoryuken", but #2 is a travel site and #3 is Wikipedia - never a good sign. Opabinia regalis 03:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment There's a travel site called Shoryuken? This I gotta see! Danny Lilithborne 00:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
    Sorry, I'm wrong - it's just one of those domain-squatting search things whose google title is about cheap airfare. Not nearly as interesting. Opabinia regalis 06:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. I see absolutely no reason to doubt Google search results' validity, and claiming that it's not accurate because of some kind of a secret commercial conspiracy or something is just weird. Google is a crap tool for many purposes, but when it comes to video game websites, it gets the job done admirably well. -- Captain Disdain 05:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:WEB & a comment surely, google is the best possible place to discover the notability of websites, or am I being daft ??? DavidHumphreysSPEAK TO MEABOUTTHE THINGS I MESSED UP 05:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm a regular poster to this website. I also nominated Daigo Umehara for deletion. This subculture is way below notable at this point. Danny Lilithborne 06:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Weak Keep On second thought, if that article survived AfD, then this one should, too, since it's really the only place where his name means something. It is really the primary site for fans of Street Fighter-type games. Danny Lilithborne 06:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. I don't think that being the primary site for fans of a certain genre necessarily means the article meets WP:WEB. (Of course, this is even assuming that its status as the primary site et al can be independently verified.) At most, it merits a mention on the article on the appropriate genre. -- H·G (words/works) 08:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. SevereTireDamage 20:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep. It is pretty much the last American site for the vs. fighting game genre. Though I'm not sure if this will hurt or help the cause, statistics at big-boards[1] show that the forums have 40,000+ active users. --SevereTireDamage 20:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per HumbleGod. GassyGuy 21:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak delete It might meet number oen of WP:WEB as it is pretty much the source for competive vs fighting game play and as such is referenced by other gaming publications, but if so, it's just barely. Ace of Sevens 05:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep. I remember Tips & Tricks running a series of articles based on fighting game tournament coverage, a good deal of information being derived from the Shoryuken.com community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.123.161.246 (talk • contribs)
    Third edit. Mak (talk) 06:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
  • keep. Article needs work but should not be deleted. SRK actually hosts the largest international tournament for 2-d fighters on US soil each year. People from all over the US attend and people from japan, china, canada, etc... fly in to compete among some of the best in the world. This year the tournament has corporate sponsership from toyota and is giving away over 80,000 dollars in prizes. Evo website --> http://www.evo2k.com/ EDIT- After reading Mak's comment if my edit is in violation of wiki rules feel free to delete. My point is still valid though. 06:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
    No such user, comment was left by —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.203.6.149 (talk • contribs) , whose only edits are to this afd and a related one. Mak (talk) 06:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Although, honestly, it could use some refinement. But I think it definitely qualifies as notable. --VG Emblem
    First edit. Mak (talk) 06:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. www.shoryuken.com is a great site, and one of the few that 2d fighting has left. This site is the homepage for EVO, the biggest tournament for 2d fighters in the US. The article could use tuning, but as of right now it defines the basics of the forum nicely. Jr7891 July 25, 2006
    Second edit, first was vandalism. Mak (talk) 06:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.