Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shinnok's amulet

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete Lacks reliable sources to establish real world significance or notability. Anyone who wants the material can approach me directly and I will userfy it but this can't survive in the current state. Note to editor below, there is no procedural grounds to delay a clear cut of an article failing clear policies for a wikiproject to be made aware. -- Spartaz ^Humbug! 20:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shinnok's amulet

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Delete - fails WP:N, WP:FICT, WP:PLOT. An in-universe description of the game plot that revolves around the amulet. No reliable sources attest to the real-world notability of this fictional item. Otto4711 15:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep: Major plot element of one of the all-time most successful video game series and the nice-looking article asserts notability by indicating its context in multiple games from this wildly popular series. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 16:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

• Can you offer a single solitary reliable source that establishes the verifiable notability of this fictional item separate from the game? One? Even a tiny one? No? Then why are you wrongly insisting yet again that because the article looks good it satisfies the objections raised in the nomination? Does substance actually mean anything to you at all? Or do you just look at the pretty pictures and the lovely blocks of text when you make your decision? Otto4711 21:37, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
• And another thing...do you have any grasp of the difference between asserting notability and actually being notable? Simply asserting notability gets an article past speedy deletion. The topic must then live up to that assertion of notability through sourcing. "It asserts notability" is irrelevant to an AFD. Otto4711 21:41, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. Being part of something notable, doesn't make the subject automatically notable. RobJ1981 22:26, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Grand Roi. Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia... we should strive to be informative to our readers even if they want information about video games. Deleting articles like this makes us less useful an encyclopedia for no good reason. At least turn it into a redirect. --W.marsh 14:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• So...the fact that this fails multiple policies and guidelines, what, just doesn't matter? Otto4711 16:19, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• Note Article talk page was just (now) tagged for the appropriate Mortal Kombat wikiproject and a message left on their talk page. As a courtesy I feel they should have been notified but I'm not aware what the rules on that with AfDs are (ensuring appropriate wikiprojects are at least in the loop and all). Suggest allowing extra time for their expertise in this area to either answer questions raised in AfD or confirm nn. Benjiboi 20:40, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.