Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheldon James Martin

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Delete. - Bobet 13:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sheldon James Martin

Appears to be a single-editor vanity article for a non-notable writer (11 Ghits). Much of it is unverifiable. It is unclear what is the basis for being recorded as an outstanding alumnus of Walsh. His book A Mans life is from a small publisher - I can't determine whether or not it's effectively self-published. The other books seem unverifiable from here.

  • Delete as per my nom. Dlyons493 Talk 19:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Not quite an A7, some attempt to assert notability is made. Not a successful attempt, though. Tevildo 21:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I've read his works on the internet and purchased his latest book from Amazon.com. There is no vanity in my facts -- Mr. Martin was an outstanding alumnus of Walsh University based on the criteria listed from Walsh College, in North Canton, OH . I find little vanity in telling how his wife died, and the conditions underwhich he wrote his poem, A Night's Prayer. facts, not 'appearances'. I do find one person's view of what is 'notable' or not, unacceptable. Do not delete.


WT Osgood puddpocket@hotmail.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by William t osgood (talk • contribs) 22:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment. The accepted consensus for notability (not "one person's view") is stated at WP:BIO. If you can provide verifiable information that Mr Martin meets any of these criteria, your article will be welcome on Wikipedia. Tevildo 22:38, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Mr. Maritn's qualifies for 'notable' inclusion in Wikipedia set forth as:

Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews

--A Man's Life was independently reviewed in newspaper articles and literary reviews in newspapers and other publications.

--The same book was independently submitted for The Pulitzer Prize as Distinguised Verse by an American author in 1994.

--His philosophic and poetic writings and contributions are commeted upon, and reviewed in detailed when googled under 'Sheldon James Martin'


WT Osgood puddpocket@hotmail.com—The preceding unsigned comment was added by William t osgood (talk • contribs) 00:09, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment. (1) Please do not remove any text from AfD discussions. (2). If verifiable sources for the "newspaper articles and literary reviews" mentioned above are added to the article, it will become acceptable. Tevildo 00:28, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

"articles and literary reviews" mentioned above are added to the article, it will become acceptable."

Thank you. I will have articles/reviews in a few days[[User:|WT Osgood]] 23:30, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Deathphoenix ʕ 21:48, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment: I'm relisting this debate now that the author has put in citations. --Deathphoenix ʕ 21:48, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete - said citations don't actually link to anything showing that he's notable. And I can't find anyhting about this pulitzer nomination. Again, it needs sources for the "newspaper articles and literary reviews", not for some hotel he went to. PresN 21:59, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment The author [[User:|WT Osgood]] promised articles/reviews in a few days but has actually delivered nothing. The citations aren't really verifiable or relevant :-( [1] is his own website, Times Leader doen't mention as far as I can see, Walsh mentions him but as I said above it's not clear what criterion he meets, [2] is his own corporate site, Geoffrey Klempner.- doesn't mention him, Oxford doesn't mention him, I requested information on the status of the International Society of Philosophers but none has been forthcoming. Dlyons493 Talk 22:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per DLyons. Looks like vanity with little to support it. Fan-1967 22:03, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. My opinion, stated above, still stands following the updates. Tevildo 22:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment There haven't been updates. Dlyons493 Talk

Ahh, sorry. Caught out! I thought the links in the article had been added since the AfD started, hence Deathphoenix's comment. I didn't check the edit history or my own memory thoroughly enough. I'll be more meticulous in future. :) Tevildo 23:03, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


Newspaper reviews added [[User:|WT Osgood]] 13:0, 08 July 2006 (UTC) Comment Do not delete.

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