Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shdcllt

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sr13 22:29, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shdcllt

Shdcllt (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Contested prod by author. WP:NFT, WP:OR, WP:V, generally non-notable. Cool Bluetalk to me 20:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom, more so the WP:NFT --Whstchy 20:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The author has confirmed here that he and his friend made the game up, thus lacking verifiable sources, and making the article original research. Cool Bluetalk to me 20:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

This is the author of the page up for discussion. I understand your logic for wanting to remove the page, but I want to ask how my article is different from Bullshit (drinking game) besides the point that Bullshit is more popular and well known. That page does not have a verifiable source that I can see, unless I am missing something. This game wasnt made up in school in one day. Its been played for a while in my surrounding area. All i'm trying to do is to get the name out there more. I dont want credit for its invention or any popularity it may gain.

Also, the Wikipedia:Reliable sources page states "This page is considered a guideline on Wikipedia. It is generally accepted among editors and is considered a standard that all users should follow. However, it is not set in stone and should be treated with common sense and the occasional exception." I don't believe that my article is offending anyone, nor is it being used for self-promotion. It is merely posted to give people more ideas for games to play either at party's or while drinking. Please consider this an "occasional exception".Fatmonkey94 22:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Let's put it this way - there are some concerns about the reliable sources guidelines. However, none of them would endorse keeping an article which is clearly made up one day. As per Bullshit (drinking game), if you look at the AfD, you can see that it has some 200-odd Amazon links, and was featured in a book about drinking games. I don't think your game can boast the same. (If you can't tell, I'm arguing for deletion.)--Haemo 21:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
And, WP:V is a policy, and so is WP:OR. I'm sure it's not being used for self-promotion, but WP:NOHARM isn't really a valid excuse, either. Cool Bluetalk to me 23:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

You are correct in saying that this game cannot claim to have been in books. And you have also brought up the point that I did not notice the AfD of Bullshit (drinking game). Again, you would be correct. So if this page were to be deleted, in order to repost it, all I would need is one outside source that can be agreed upon as reliable?Fatmonkey94 22:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Possibly. I suggest if you find (a) source(s) that you post it at WP:AfC, despite you registering an account, to be checked by a regular, with a comment that you're doing it to get it checked. Cool Bluetalk to me 23:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.