Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaw, St. Louis

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (I don't like it, but, that's what those guys down there said to do.) JERRY talk contribs 05:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shaw, St. Louis

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This seems like a non-notable neighborhood for wikipedia in St. Louis, Missouri. Imagine if every neighborhood was given its own article. There are millions of neighborhoods so why should this one be special? Tavix (talk) 02:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep. This one may well be notable. It's been around for a century, and the local media must have recorded a lot of the neighborhood's history. As well, sometimes what is today a neighborhood of a city might once have been a separate municipality until it was annexed by the city of which it today forms a part. (I can't find a Shaw, Missouri at http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic , but there may once have been a separate village there with a different name before the territory became part of the city of St. Louis.) --Eastmain (talk) 03:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete It's one of 75 St. Louis neighborhoods that may be notable, might have had a lot of coverage in the local media, might have been a separate municipality, may have been a village with a different name. It may be-- but so far, there's nothing to indicate that it IS. Neighborhoods aren't inherently notable-- thank God. Mandsford (talk) 03:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, covered in books like this, mentioned in tourist guides. Zagalejo^^^ 05:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable neighborhood of St. Louis. Alansohn (talk) 07:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep I do not understand what a "non-notable neighborhood" would ever be. RFerreira (talk) 18:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment Nor is there such a thing as a "non-notable grandchild". Everyone's home is special to them, but whether it's worthy of an encyclopedia article is another matter. By the special-to-many standard, we would have millions and millions of articles about neighborhoods, kindergartens, churches, shopping centers, tall buildings, annual festivals, etc. There has to be something to indicate that it's notable to outsiders. Zagalejo is the only one to actually point to something that suggests that the Shaw neighborhood is notable.Mandsford (talk) 13:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment What I meant by non-notable is that it isn't notable enough to be an encyclopedia article. It is obviously notable for the people who live there but not necessarily notable for Wikipedia. Tavix (talk) 01:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - Meets low bar for notability. BusterD (talk) 19:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.