Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shōsuke Tanihara
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. John254 02:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Shōsuke Tanihara
No evidence of notability has been presented in the year this article has been up. If someone were to present credible evidence, I'd withdraw the nomination. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 10:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Withdraw nomination, per Truth or Doubt. Someone should put some of this in the article, though. Request Speedy close. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 21:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. IMDB lists over 20 credits. Starred in Fudoh: The New Generation. Pburka (talk) 13:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- 20 credits, without any indication of notability of the role, is not adequate. I can't speak as to whether Fudoh: The New Generation is sufficiently notable that the star inherits notability. In fact, I'm not sure that article belongs on Wikipedia, as it only contains a one sentence lead, plot summary, and cast list. The latter two violate WP:NOT. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 16:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- As to how notable Fudoh is: Time Magazine listed it as one of their ten best movies of the year 1997. Which is certainly enough to justify an article on it, but maybe not enough for notability to be inherited by its lead. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- 20 credits, without any indication of notability of the role, is not adequate. I can't speak as to whether Fudoh: The New Generation is sufficiently notable that the star inherits notability. In fact, I'm not sure that article belongs on Wikipedia, as it only contains a one sentence lead, plot summary, and cast list. The latter two violate WP:NOT. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 16:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Google Search on Japanese name 谷原 章介 yields 286,000 results vs the romanized version of under 6,000. Anime News Network profile [1], Has appeared in Godzilla vs. Megaguirus [2]. In american media he has appeared in USA today "First of all, the iPod design is cute," said movie star Shosuke Tanihara, who listens to Prince and Janet Jackson with his iPod while cooking pasta at home or driving his Mercedes. "[3], Movie review of Fudoh: The New Generation in seattle times [4], Variety Magazine review of Vexille ,in which Shōsuke Tanihara plays a major character [5] AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 15:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- We should have a referenced article specifically about him, if he is to be listed. The USA today article suggests that someone thinks he's notable, or he wouldn't be interviewed. On the other hand, some of those articles quote the "man on the shttp://wwwz.fujitv.co.jp/kyoukasho/index.htmltreet". I lean toward Vexille being notable, even though the current article reads like a Movie Tome entry, but the star of a notable movie is not necessarily notable. As for google, I don't know Japanese, but a number of otherwise experienced Wikipedians forget to require the words to be in order. I'd accept an article in a major magazine, even if in Japanese, as an indication of notability. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 16:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. 122 Google news hits for his Japanese name. Someone who can read Japanese would be needed to determine which of these are actually articles primarily about him, but the number of hits is suggestive that he may be notable. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- We should have a referenced article specifically about him, if he is to be listed. The USA today article suggests that someone thinks he's notable, or he wouldn't be interviewed. On the other hand, some of those articles quote the "man on the shttp://wwwz.fujitv.co.jp/kyoukasho/index.htmltreet". I lean toward Vexille being notable, even though the current article reads like a Movie Tome entry, but the star of a notable movie is not necessarily notable. As for google, I don't know Japanese, but a number of otherwise experienced Wikipedians forget to require the words to be in order. I'd accept an article in a major magazine, even if in Japanese, as an indication of notability. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 16:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Filmography and ample ghits suggest notability. There is no time limit placed on the development of articles, and lack of content is not in itself reason enough to delete. PC78 (talk) 23:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Lack of claims of notability in the article is a speedy deletion criterion, and I believe the article qualifies. I'd be happier if evidence were added, but the alternative really is deletion. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 02:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- You don't think a 15-item filmography is a sufficient claim of notability to avoid speedy deletion? —David Eppstein (talk) 02:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- It wouldn't be under WP:PORN. We don't have a numeric estimate in WP:FILM (or whatever it's called now). — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 08:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- WP:PORN does not describe criteria for speedy deletion. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- It wouldn't be under WP:PORN. We don't have a numeric estimate in WP:FILM (or whatever it's called now). — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 08:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- You don't think a 15-item filmography is a sufficient claim of notability to avoid speedy deletion? —David Eppstein (talk) 02:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- If you think this article is eligable for speedy deletion, they by all means tag it as a speedy and see how far it gets you. Your link to WP:PORN is highly irrelevant to this discussion. PC78 (talk) 10:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment It appears that this actor has also appeared on Japanese National television as a guest on the celebrity edition of Who Wants to Be a Millionare. More so, he was the host of a television show on Nippon Television called Truth or doubt. Official Nippon Television link[6] It is mostly in Japanese but you can clearly see his name romanized in the flash intro. In the past year he also appeared on Watashitachi no Kyoukasho, you can find the Japanese website here [7]. What more do you want? Unfortunately, I couldn't find a notarized letter from his mother asserting his notability ;-) AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 15:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think what he wants is, not guest appearances, but press: print articles or TV appearances that are about him rather than that merely feature him. Which there seem to be plenty of; several of the articles from Google news appear (from the horrible translation provided by Google translate) to be about his personal life. But we need them in the article. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment It appears that this actor has also appeared on Japanese National television as a guest on the celebrity edition of Who Wants to Be a Millionare. More so, he was the host of a television show on Nippon Television called Truth or doubt. Official Nippon Television link[6] It is mostly in Japanese but you can clearly see his name romanized in the flash intro. In the past year he also appeared on Watashitachi no Kyoukasho, you can find the Japanese website here [7]. What more do you want? Unfortunately, I couldn't find a notarized letter from his mother asserting his notability ;-) AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 15:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Lack of claims of notability in the article is a speedy deletion criterion, and I believe the article qualifies. I'd be happier if evidence were added, but the alternative really is deletion. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 02:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Comment I didn't miss the point.(In reference to your edit summary). Arthur Rubin asserts he is not a notable individual. I'm providing additional supporting information for notability. In some cases he may appear as a guest, but I'd note clearly hosting a television show should not be constituted as a 'guest appearance.' I understand that he is looking for print articles as well, and we've already establish that an editor with Japanese language skills is needed to properly source an article. However, we should not rely explicitly on that to assert notability when there are other verifiable sources which can be provided to support notability as well. Thanks AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 17:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. —Fg2 (talk) 01:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep: Information and sources found above are enough to demonstrate notability. Be nice if they could be integrated into the article, but that's not required for an AfD. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
