Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seven Hour War
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Coredesat 03:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Seven Hour War
Like Black Mesa incident, cruft which fails WP:FICT almost entirely; this should or can easily be discussed in the setting portion of Half-Life 2. David Fuchs (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Merge to Half-Life 2. Logical enough. Mandsford (talk) 21:42, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Merge into parent article Will (talk) 20:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Article covers an important event to the whole Half-Life franchise. It's like merging Zion (The Matrix) with The Matrix Reloaded, because in this film this location appeared for the first time. Hołek ҉ 22:08, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
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- That article fails the above guidelines and policies just as bad, if not worse, then the Seven Hour War. David Fuchs (talk) 22:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- I wasn't talking about content, merely just about the topic. Okay, another example, Battle of Yavin. Hołek ҉ 22:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe the Battle of Yavin can be cited with secondary sources and critical commentary. As it is, I would delete it in a jiffy. I've looked for information on the war, and its frankly such a small subtopic no one's going to talk about it. It's not just that it fails WP:FICT; it's that I can't ever see it being able to satisfy those requirements. David Fuchs (talk) 22:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- I wasn't talking about content, merely just about the topic. Okay, another example, Battle of Yavin. Hołek ҉ 22:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- That article fails the above guidelines and policies just as bad, if not worse, then the Seven Hour War. David Fuchs (talk) 22:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep as per Holek. Xihr (talk) 22:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related-related deletion discussions. -- -- pb30<talk> 23:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete as there are no reliable sources to demonstrate notability. Note that fansites and blogs are not reliable. --Gavin Collins (talk) 22:29, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. The subjects articles such as this cover are no different from articles covering key events in the Star War universe, for example. The notability of the Half-Life 2 universe is already established. DaedricDancer (talk) 22:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Read Wikipedia:FICT#Defining_notability_for_fiction. The Half-Life universe, and elements thereof, are not automatically considered notable, with some exceptions; this is not one. Also, read WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS for why we're not addressing the other crappy articles out there. David Fuchs (talk) 22:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- I invite you to carefully reread the final statement made in Wikipedia:FICT#Defining_notability_for_fiction. In short; I disagree that "this [article] is not one", as you put it. I will leave it to users with an actual investment (emtional or otherwise) in this article to search and add reliable sources independent of the subject to provide real-world context. At any rate, FICT seems to indicate that tags requesting third party sources as well as a rewrite of the article to alleviate any and all in-universe issues are more appropriate than a deletion proposal in this matter. Thus, I stand by my initial opinion. DaedricDancer (talk) 20:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've done a search for sources that could be added; AfD is not cleanup, after all. And I can't find any third party sources, ergo the AfD and why it fails FICT. David Fuchs (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- I invite you to carefully reread the final statement made in Wikipedia:FICT#Defining_notability_for_fiction. In short; I disagree that "this [article] is not one", as you put it. I will leave it to users with an actual investment (emtional or otherwise) in this article to search and add reliable sources independent of the subject to provide real-world context. At any rate, FICT seems to indicate that tags requesting third party sources as well as a rewrite of the article to alleviate any and all in-universe issues are more appropriate than a deletion proposal in this matter. Thus, I stand by my initial opinion. DaedricDancer (talk) 20:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - no real-world notability, sufficiently covered in Half-Life 2. Terraxos (talk) 15:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete or merge as there are no reliable sources to demonstrate notability outside the Half-Life franchise. --Gavin Collins (talk) 09:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Andrzej Kmicic (talk) 05:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
