Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seth Tobias

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Dhartung has provided sources showing the individual was notable; none of the deletes have made a compelling argument.Fabrictramp (talk) 21:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Seth Tobias

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This person is only notable for the manner of his death. He was not notable in life, no secondary sources are provided which discussed him while he was alive. Northwestgnome (talk) 01:58, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete The purpose of the article seems to be to suggest theories about his possible murder, not to tell anything about himself. Northwestgnome (talk) 02:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete He is a non-notable American hedge fund manager. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. There are sources from before his death such as Barrons and The (London) Times that indicate his notability aside from his being a frequent TV pundit and newspaper quotable go-to-guy. There are also better sources than GayPornTimes.com for information about his death including extensive stories in the New York Times (provided), New York Magazine, ABC NewsABC again, and although it is not independent, CNBC produced its own special on his death. There's even overseas coverage (not wire stories): German, British, Italian, etc. Although his death is more lurid than his life, I believe he would have passed AFD before his death. --Dhartung | Talk 05:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Mr. Tobias was notable prior to his death. Ecoleetage (talk) 11:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable hedge fund manager. The article is gossipy tabloid material speculating about his death, which has no place in an encyclopedia article to begin with. KleenupKrew (talk) 11:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • keep per Dhartung. JoshuaZ (talk) 13:12, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. Dhartung's websites prove the notability of the subject. Malinaccier (talk) 14:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per Dhartung. Cainebj (talk) 18:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete This individual was not notable when he was alive, and his page would have qualified for a speedy then. While this death is unfortunate, it is in no way notable. Fallenfromthesky (talk) 18:28, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 22:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, Dhartung has proved that the subject meets notability. @pple complain 03:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep He may have been notable before--if the funds he managed were not significant there would probably not have been so much press coverage. DGG (talk) 15:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.