Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seone Nuku'olafa

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Singularity 07:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seone Nuku'olafa

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A non-notable actor, known for appearing in one advertisement where he sings one line. The article is entirely unsourced and a google search does not find anything relevant, even when using what I suspect is the correct spelling of his name - Nuku'alofa. The article has a work in progress tag but with the best will in the world, I cannot see this article managing to assert notability.

A previous speedy (by another editor) was denied, therefore it is listed here. Mattinbgn\talk 21:07, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

An interesting part about the above comment is the observation that a google search does not find anything relevant. Being a valued member of Wikipedia, I would have thought objectivity in one's analysis of sources would be one of the cornerstones of research.

As useful as the internet -and including wikipedia, may be for such searches, all knowledge, wisdom and information does not reside solely on the internet. Hence, this point should not be taken into account in order to assess the validity of this article.

As this is a work in progress, verifiable sources are in the process of being made available online. Not being able to devote one's time solely to editing new wikipedia articles, this process does take a little time.

Seone, for those in the know, is not only known for one advertisement -even though a high proportion of the population will be familiar with him for this reason. It is for his work with Maori and Polynesian communities in Australia for which this article will build satisfy concerns of notability. In addition to this —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lankstar 79 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment there is no requirement that sources are online - they simply must be verifiable. Such as an interview in Rolling Stone magazine.Garrie 02:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, no attribution of notability to independent sources, fails WP:BIO. --Dhartung | Talk 23:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete all sources shown to date are self-published by his employer, his church or the company running a competition he entered in with very little success. So none of them lend weight to claims of notability. Not every advertising actor is notable, including this one.Garrie 02:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I dont believe it is very notable or all that useful. What wikipedia is not . Kingpomba (talk) 03:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, as per the nom, he's appeared in one ad campaign - hardly the mark of a notable actor. The rest of it is barely even worth mentioning; auditioning for Australian idol and going to church hardly confer notability. If he's notable for other reasons, it should be easy to come up with sources, but as they seem to be in short supply here, I'm going to have to endorse deletion. Lankiveil (talk) 09:05, 20 December 2007 (UTC).
  • Keep, This may sound a little unwikipedic, but I'm agreeing with this Lankstar fellow. I specialise in underground cultures, sub-cultures and people that run against the grain in general, and targeting an article for deletion on the above basis does raise certain questions in my mind. To me it seems like its the 'have' and 'have not' argument here. On one hand there is the argument that because of the lack of availability of secondary sources through quite limited web searches etc, the article is not notable. As none here seem to be SME's on the topic, and unfamiliar with the sub-culture Seone may be in, I would strongly suggest that this article be allowed to develop. 122.105.140.41 (talk).
  • Comment As is the case with the creator of the article, Lankstar79 (talk · contribs), the only edits made by this IP are to the article and this discussion. The editors should be aware that canvassing and sockpuppetry are frowned on by the Wikipedia community. -- Mattinbgn\talk 07:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Smells of promotion, and is completely unsourced. Checked local/state newspapers using Factiva and got nowhere. Orderinchaos 23:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Alarmingly non-notable - why on earth was this article created? The only claim to notability is that Seone Nuku'olafa is a rising star, which seems to be crystal-ball gazing, especially as it is uncited. If he is in fact a rising star the article can be re-created after he obtains fame - and has some reliable sources written about him. --Nick Dowling (talk) 06:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.