Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Self-injury in popular culture

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mangojuicetalk 15:51, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Self-injury in popular culture

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To have any content at all, this list would have to rely on editors' personal observations and interpretations of creative works. As "common sense" as it may seem to declare a work to contain reference to or be centered around Self Injury, this list does not belong on Wikipedia; also note that -many of the works themselves do not WP notabilty guidelines, and -the entire music section is a laundry list of songs and lyrics in which editors have personally observed reference to self injury. Blueaster 17:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. Another tiresome list of sightings of a particular object/idea/phenomenon in pop culture. Contains no encyclopedic information and is of no value, does nothing to inform the reader what the significance or history of self-harm in cultural references, and so on. Arkyan • (talk) 18:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unencyloapedic, original research, random - in other words, canonical listcruft. Guy (Help!) 22:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete lacks significance and encyclopedic value. ZBrannigan 02:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Delete I think a lot of the things on the list are not even about Self-injury, particularly some of the song lyrics. Plasticbottle 05:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep Self-harm is a major problem in some cultures and has numerous sources to attest to its importance. "self harm" gets over 1.1 million Google hits. Problems with inappropriate inclusions in this article are better dealt with by editing than by deletion. Reviews can be used to objectively determine which works deal with self-harm. Not all the works are fiction: "A Bright Red Scream" is about coping with the problem. Edison 05:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
    • "Self-harm in popular culture" as itself is probably a very notable subject. However, this article is nothing but a sprawling list made of personal sightings. In addition, "self harm" is by itself may be a notable subject, but that says nothing about this list and it's own standing. And if a work is non-fiction, by definition, it should not be kept on here, because it's not in the category defined by the title. Blueaster 21:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - the article was created to remove a growing list from the main Self Injury article, if this is deleted i'm concerned that the section will be re-created and start to clog up the article agian.
I agree it is completely out of hand, but a hard pruning of it then merging back into the main article might be the be the best solution, restricting to referenced examples only, e.g. with the songs it has been explicitly stated it was about self injury in an an interview. I did try this when it was part of the main article but for the most part extra incidences were just added. --Nate 09:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
you shouldn't keep us from information. thats unfair. why delete it anyway? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.165.36.114 (talk) 18:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
  • Do not delete until a dedicated maintainer for the pop-culture section in the main article is identified. Also do not forget to exclude this person from 3RR as the people who add the references never sleep. Pavel Vozenilek 09:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep DXRAW 03:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete and follow suggestions of Nate above when refs are added to main article. Springnuts 11:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
  • RevisionI have just removed any unlinked entries comments? --Nate 08:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.