Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sekaa gong tirta sinar

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 01:16, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sekaa gong tirta sinar

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This is an article about a gamelan musical group in Sydney, Australia. Unfortunately it doesn't assert notability as per the required criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (music). There are no reliable sources provided in the article, just a bunch of personal web sites. A search of Google reveals only 36 hits for "Sekaa gong tirta sinar". Being a gamelan group outside of Indonesia does not satisfy the Wikipedia notably criteria. Caniago 06:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 06:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Cruft. Twenty Years 08:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable musical group with zero claim of notability. Keb25 09:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:MUSIC, WP:N, and WP:RS. STORMTRACKER 94 20:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete NN. ILovePlankton(L—S) 21:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Burntsauce 22:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - gamelan is an interesting subject but an article on this or any other gamelan group would require some verifiable sources to illustrate notability. I cannot find any such sources and the article doesn't provide any. There may also be a copyright issue as most of the article is a direct cut and paste from here. A more minor point is an apparent conflict of interest with the article creator User:ColinMacg probably being the Colin Macgregor named as the fifth member of the gamelan group itself. Euryalus 01:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Move - the WP Indonesian Project - has indeed a problem with specifically categorising gamelan groups that are formed overseas - and which are in their own context- I would suggest that this article potentially be transferred to the Indonesian project as an orphan - and we at the Indonesian project could potentially create a 'gamelan' outside of Indonesia category and or article - so despite the fact that the nominator considers it deletable - it would be better dealt with there than here SatuSuro 07:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - I am not sure that the standards raised here are being applied consistently. There are a host of entries for American university marching bands in Wikipedia. They may well be known by more people than SGTS because the USA is more populous than Australia, but the relative significance of a number of them is probably no greater than that of SGTS. Also, this is a unique band in Sydney that, by its existence, I expect would be doing its small part to help build bridges between two countries that have experienced some friction in the past. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greta007 (talk • contribs) 08:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment in view of the above comments so far - a strategy should be thought about where to move the information to - as the trend suggests that an addition into the Gamelan outside of Indonesia area rather than have to deal with or cope with the views of the delete nominators - there is the capacity in that context to accomodate such information SatuSuro 08:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.