Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seattle Bible College (2nd nomination)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 16:18, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seattle Bible College

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Unnotable, non-accredited institution. Was nominated in November as Vanispamcruftisement, and ended with no consensus (two keeps, three deletes). Its been on wikipedia four for years with few edits. Until I researched it a few days ago, the article didn't even mention its lack of accreditation.Arbustoo 01:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete fails WP:ORG. Not accredited, lacks WP:RS, and notability. Arbustoo 01:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep A lack of accreditation is not abnormal for bible colleges. The schools is reasonably large and well known within the Christian community in Seattle. The article needs improved references and more work but it satisifed WP:ORG and is notable. Provide sources, don't delete it. mako (talk•contribs) 17:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment The article was created in April 2003, which is over 4 years ago. If it is so "well-known" why hasn't it been expanded or sourced in the last four years? Offer proof for your claims that is passes ORG. Arbustoo 02:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, not adequately notable jamesgibbon 18:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete the keeper's comments are equally true of traffic schools, but it still doesn't make them notable. Carlossuarez46 22:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and improve - Should be better sourced, but it appears to be somewhat notable, 3520 ghits, 17 gnews archive hits. - Crockspot 23:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment As mentioned before Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#Google test and telling how many hits is a pointless exercise. This article has been on wikipedia for FOUR YEARS. Explain HOW it is notable NOT how many hits at google you found. Arbustoo 02:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been relisted for more opinions. Arbustoo 02:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:N (not even alleged so actually could be speedied) and WP:V not one source. --Butseriouslyfolks 03:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. I can't find any non-trivial independent sources as required by WP:N. News archive stories on Google News and LexisNexis are mainly concerned with the trial of a driver who killed a student at the College, and don't give significant coverage to the college itself. EALacey 09:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, not a single source indicating that this is a notable institution. Lankiveil 09:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
  • Delete. My concern here is not that the article is four years old, it's that during these four years, nobody has gone and actually improved the article, save for one spammer who modified the article early this or late last year. If that's the case, there's probably no interest. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 19:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - The article doesn't make compelling notability claims, and sinc it is practically abandoned it's unlikely it'll ever get any. Coren 00:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete If it has been online for four years, and STILL looks like a crappy stub, DELETE. Jmlk17 03:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per Wikipedia:Notability. I do not view the article's age or the number of times it has been edited to be in any way relevant to the notability of the subject. Just as inclusion is not an indicator of notability, inactivity is not an indicator of non-notability. That said, the article does not prove the topic's notability and I was unable to find secondary sources about the College. The 17 Google News hits are mostly about present/former students of the College (especially one who was killed in a motorcycle accident). As for the regular Google hits (2200 excluding Wikipedia mirrors), most seem to be trivial directory entries. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 08:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.