Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Johnson (artist)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Nishkid64 13:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scott Johnson (artist)
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Non-notable podcast host. Google search turns up a lack of independent verifiable sources to lend notability. Wiki page for his podcast "The Instance" was deleted as being non-notable as well. Ocatecir 04:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete offers no sources for claim of notability. Nuttah68 11:50, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Tonywalton | Talk 15:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete if not properly sourced and cited by end of this AfD Alf photoman 16:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete not notable, no reliable seccondary sources -- Selmo (talk) 19:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.--Rudjek 23:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - his webcomic Extra Life is one of the more important ones. --Energman 16:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - One of the most notable webcomics and a useful blog, for geeks mostly.. --Yusecki 19:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC) — Yusecki (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep - One of the most popular geek web comics and one of the busiest men in podcasting, thus notable to a lot of different people. Campaigner80 19:40, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - The man runs a 25,000 reader per day blog, a webcomic that has been around for years, and is a part of 6 podcasts. He's the creator of MyDrawings.com for Pete's sake! Anyone who thinks this is non-noteable needs a cranial exam. 75.68.27.242 20:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)--Shaymus22
- Keep - This is not supposed to be a popularity contest. Virtually all notable podcasters know and respect Scott Johnson. I know, I know, this is not sourced, but I have heard him refered to many times in other podcasts. Those of you voting for deletion, why not do some research and cite and source the article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Curtgunz (talk • contribs) 20:12, 16 January 2007 (UTC). — Curtgunz (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep - Extremely creative writer and artist. Understands what "funny" means. Large readership for his web comic. He is a notable podcaster, as he has an extensive user base.--Emerlock 20:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC) — Emerlock (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep – Veltcardio 20:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC) – This guy runs four different podcasts, the most successfull one named Extralife Radio is probably one of the best for the geek/pop culture. His blog is also a site full with geek information posts from around the internet, he updates everyday. Not to mention that he has a base of 25.000 readers a day for the blog, a three times a week comic for geeks, and more or less the same amount listens to the weekly extralife radio show (also co hosted by brian dunaway from amissiondeep.com and Obsidian from commissionedcomic.com). He also has appear in radio shows and invited to geeks conventions, and also for the portable media convention for all his work over the intenet.
- Keep - His presence on the internet goes further than just the Extra Life comic, so, unlike most webcomic artists, it makes sense to give him his own page, even if it's main purpose would just be to provide links to his various projects. Traitorfish 21:30, 16 Januray (UTC) — Traitorfish (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Wikipedia is not a directory of links. Most of the arguments being presented so far are WP:ILIKEIT ones, especially WP:ILIKEIT#This_number_is_big. Popularity does not mean notability. Independent verifiable sources need to be given to establish notability. - Ocatecir 21:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - In that case: if you have a book that sold 25.000 copies why cant you make an entry about the author of the book in question? This is the same, is like making an entry about the host of an important radio or tv show only that his medium is the internet. The guy is famous enough and has enought merit to have a wiki entry. Yes he is popular, but so it is any other creator/host of a tv program for example. The way to establish notability in the internet is by links to his site, readers of his web page, establishing for how long he has been doing so, his reputation on the net and work he has done for the medium in question. He has been in press articles (he and his podcast ELR), links from other web comic artists (today a web comic artist should have the same reputation as a comic artist), his job like one of the first webcomic artists since 2001 and even one of the first people to start making podcasts (since 2001 too), here. Veltcardio 23:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC) — Veltcardio (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- This argument is exactly what is described in WP:ILIKEIT#This_number_is_big. Notability means reputable outside sources have written on his notability. While you may know of and like the author, these aren't arguments for notability as far as wikipedia is concerned. The link you provided does not mention his notability. - Ocatecir 00:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - This is Wikipedia, the whole point is to list things that people know about that others may find interesting or have questions on. Scott Johnson is a very well-known artist and just because you haven't heard of him doesn't mean that he shouldn't be up here on Wikipedia. Scott is also a very dear friend and to have his page removed from Wikipedia just doesn't make sense to me. He has many offerings from podcasts, comics, web blog, etc. Check out his work and see for yourself. [1]. bdensley 23:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC) — bdensley (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep - Comical/political Cartoonist. He's work has been published in local and state newspapers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.83.103.78 (talk) 02:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
- Keep - link to the old layout of the site way back in 2001, you can see how the site evolved to version 5.2 today, it also proves that he was into podcasting then which is quite amazing, the extralife page then you can navigate here. He is also very well known in the web comic space on the internet as one of the guys who started web comics (webcomics like dueling analogs and commissioned comic had done some work about him too or with him in the case of commissioned comic. Also in the web comic world he has gathered a lot of very well known web comics in gamers pair of dice which "is a webcomic group comprised solely of gaming webcomics". He is also part of child´s play, for charity in the gaming industry. His artwork has appear on things outside the web: the post and the book. Extralife Radio and The Instance (two of his podcasts), has made into the main page of itunes several times, like this one. Ryan Clouse made an article about his podcast for Tribune Media for a nationally syndicated column. part 1 of the article and part 2 of the article, "The column was published in papers across the nation... "and was available to close to 1 million readers in the US". He was also a guest once on a local radio Besides all of that i agree with bdensley about what he says wikipedia should be. But that is not what we are talking about. Veltcardio 03:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC) — Veltcardio (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Please review WP:Notability as these arguments do not meet wikipedia's standards for notability. Also, his podcasts have also been deleted for not proving notability. - Ocatecir 03:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - I'm not sure what all the requirements for notability are, but his work has been published in printed sources. He did the artwork for this book.
- Keep One of the most artistically talented people on the web. Who uses wiki? People who use the net. Who uses the web mostly? Geeks. What is Scoot Johnson all about? Geekery. 'Nuff said. 67.49.19.112 05:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
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- All of these comments seem to be at the prompting of the subject himself from his site (see here). Please before posting review WP:Notability to review the criteria for notability on wikipedia as no evidence has been presented that satisfies that criteria. Please also read WP:ILIKEIT as all the arguments for "keep" thus far are discouraged in that essay.
- Keep Best reference I can think of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExtraLife
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- The extralife article also does not cite any outside sources lending to its notability and will need to have sources added to it to establish notability as well. - Ocatecir 18:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, I hope the !vote stacking is ignored by the closing admin, and arguments are judged on their merits. This article has no independent sources, so keeping it (as it is at the moment) shouldn't even be up for negotiation. Trebor 22:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.