Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was - kept, but should be merged into other pages - SimonP 21:04, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism
Merge into Arabs and anti-Semitism or Islam and anti-Semitism. My complaints with this article are not the info contained in it, but the fact that there are already two other anti-Semitism articles that this could be merged into. Perhaps in the Arabs and anti-Semitism article a section for each country can be created if there is enough info.Yuber(talk) 23:41, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
- Merge as per Yuber. Jayjg (talk) 00:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Comment I created this article to address User:Klonimus's concerns after his article List of Saudi Arabian Jews was speedy-deleted for no content. I felt that there should be an article covering the specific allegations of anti-Semitism that were raised in that article, so I found sourcing for the claim that Jews are banned from Saudi Arabia, added a few other anti-Semitic things they had done, and made it an article stub. If you feel that it would be best merged, feel free to do so. I want to ensure that all facts, on both sides of these contentious debates, are presented in a reasonable and encyclopedic manner. Firebug 02:00, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Merge with Arabs and anti-Semitism. Megan1967 02:23, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Strong Keep Arabs and anti-Semitism, and Islam and anti-Semitism are broad articles. Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism is a specific article about a specific country with a long history state sponsored and condoned anti-Semetism. Everything in Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism is cited and verifiable and the article has plenty possibilites for expansion and organic growth. Merging is for articles without possibility of organic growth or that are better included in a larger article. If this article is to be merged it should be merged into Saudi Arabia since it is a article about Saudi Arabia. Klonimus 04:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Merge into Status of religious freedom in Saudi Arabia. —Charles P. (Mirv) 05:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Point of view behind a facade of neutrality. Title is not acceptable as it is an accusation. Gillian Tipson 06:27, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- I really don't understand why anyone is opposed to the existance Country and anti-Semitism articles. They seem to have the right scope and are encyclopedic by nature. And I might add that it's not POV if it exists and is presented in an NPOV Manner as Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism is. Plenty of such articles could be written. France and and anti-Semitism, Egypt and anti-Semitism, Syria and anti-Semitism, Britian and anti-Semitism, Russia and anti-Semitism.Klonimus 18:10, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Merge relevant parts into Arabs and anti-Semitism, Islam and anti-Semitism, Human rights in Saudi_Arabia. BTW, History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia would be completely legitimate encyclopedic article, similar to History of the Jews in Bessarabia, History of the Jews in Carpathian Ruthenia, History of the Jews in Germany, History of the Jews in Italy, History of the Jews in Latin America, History of the Jews in Poland, etc. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 10:07, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Methinks sadly that History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia, will suffer the same fate as Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism, and List of Saudi Arabian Jews.Klonimus 18:10, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Could it even get off the ground in the first place? IIRC there was no significant Jewish presence in the region long before the state of Saudi Arabia even existed, and nowadays Jews are not allowed in to the country, so there's not much to write about. An article with no more content than the deleted list of Saudi Arabian Jews would have no reason to exist. —Charles P. (Mirv) 18:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- I meant the region, not the country. Consider History of the Jews in the Ottoman Empire or some such. Now it is either missing or spread across Medina, Mizrahim, Jewish exodus from Arab lands, etc. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 03:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
- In that case I would suggest History of the Jews in Arabia (or "the Arabian peninsula") if it would address the region rather than the political entity. —Charles P. (Mirv) 04:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
- Perfect! A good title is 90% of work. ;)) ←Humus sapiens←Talk 04:10, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
- In that case I would suggest History of the Jews in Arabia (or "the Arabian peninsula") if it would address the region rather than the political entity. —Charles P. (Mirv) 04:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
- I meant the region, not the country. Consider History of the Jews in the Ottoman Empire or some such. Now it is either missing or spread across Medina, Mizrahim, Jewish exodus from Arab lands, etc. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 03:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
- Could it even get off the ground in the first place? IIRC there was no significant Jewish presence in the region long before the state of Saudi Arabia even existed, and nowadays Jews are not allowed in to the country, so there's not much to write about. An article with no more content than the deleted list of Saudi Arabian Jews would have no reason to exist. —Charles P. (Mirv) 18:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Methinks sadly that History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia, will suffer the same fate as Saudi Arabia and anti-Semitism, and List of Saudi Arabian Jews.Klonimus 18:10, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Merge as above. --Carnildo 21:30, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Merge per Humus sapiens and/or Mirv. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 01:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
- This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
