Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sat/Tan Satanism

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The result was delete. Geocities sites are not reliable sources. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 05:16, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sat/Tan Satanism

Advertising and WP:BOLLOCKS. Leibniz 09:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about bollocks, but I've been trying to clean up the advertising. Since I know nothing about it it's been difficult, I've been hoping someone will come along and help me? Kuronue 14:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

This nomination was incomplete. Fixed now. Yomangani^talk 18:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Keep<-s> - Somebody has made an effort to site some sources. Not in wiki notation. Def needs alot of cleanup but I have seen Much worse articles. Chris Kreider 18:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Two of sites are geocities, literally no reliability whatsoever. ColourBurst 19:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Weak Delete - Change my Vote to weak delete. I dident pay close enough attention to the sources. Thanks for bringing that to my attention! Much appreciaten. Chris Kreider 22:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless it can be properly sourced. I see no reliable sources; all I find is content from Wikipedia mirrors, forums, Myspace, etc. Oh yes, and Geocities. --Kinu ^t/_c 20:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete religioncruft. Danny Lilithborne 22:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Improve - drastically! It is well written but in its current form it will go! I think I proved to myself (not from the article) that it is not a hoax because I found a site that says the sat/tan is a form of "Deistic (or Pantheistic) Satanists" and "The primary two churches which teach Deistic Satanism are the First Church of Satan in Salem, Massachussetts, and the Satanic Reds (who are also, interestingly enough, a Communist group)." [ The Varieties of Religious Satanism By Geifodd ap Pwyll ]. If I wanted to keep this article I would start by removing everything trying to "evangelise the faith" (almost the whole article) and start with the paragraph in link above and fill out a few more details. Once the important parts like who, what, where, when are covered, then think about what other people want to know rather than what believers want to tell others (ideally get someone who is neutral to write it!) If it does just turn out to be two small congregations as the link I saw suggest, then I doubt it will survive as an article on its own - if so try merging it with satanism! --Mike 22:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep because I think if I could get some help on the article it could be cleaned up readily. I don't have the time to reasearch the religion, but I did clean up the tone/grammer considerably (check the version before I started editing if you want to see REALLY bad religioncruft), all it needs now are good sources I don't have the time to look for Kuronue 03:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Geocities pages are not WP:RS. Sandstein 22:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.