Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saskatoon royal connections

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Dreadstar † 13:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Saskatoon royal connections

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Non-notable topic. The information itself is well researched, but combining it in this way is probably original research. The British monarchy reigns over millions of people in thousands of cities. Saskatoon's connections are not of particular signifigance. Any information that can be salvaged should be moved to History of Saskatoon. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 18:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete, original research, not notable. There is a lot of bits of information there, but they could be attached to the various articles on whichever places the Queen visited. Article seems to be promoting some sort of royalist political party, too. Lord Uniscorn (talk) 21:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, and I would co-nominate Royal visits to Saskatchewan. Another article, Monarchy in Saskatchewan, seems to have parallels of dubious value. There has been a big debate over the need for Canadian Royal Family and without checking I suspect these are all connected. --Dhartung | Talk 02:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep the article. It fits well within a the series of articles in the Category Monarchy in Canada. Canada has no royalist political party, as stated by Lord Uniscorn, nor does it have any political connection to the British monarchy, as stated by Kevlar. Among several areas of significance, Saskatoon is the site of the first awarding of a provincial honour in Canada by a member of its royal family, its number of royal namesakes are higher in proportion than in other cities, and its most important landmark, the Hotel Bessborough, is named for a former representative of the monarch. The Crown has had a presence in Saskatoon since its beginnings, and it has affected the lives of many among its citizens. Improvements can be made to the written text in order to make it more encyclopaedic in nature. Revise the article, change the title, exclude the monarchism section, but a more convincing argument should be presented for the deletion of a substantial and well-research contribution such as this. Sparks1 (talk) 02:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • In response to Dhartung's comment about a "big debate over the Canadian Royal Family". This very article states that there has been little national debate on the matter. It would be wise not to exaggerate for the purposes of furthering an argument. Please note that several revisions have been made since the deletion notice was posted, most notably to the final section on monarchism in Saskatoon. Sparks1 (talk) 04:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Sparks1, sorry. WHen I said "big debate" I meant our debate. --Dhartung | Talk 11:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. -- DoubleBlue (Talk) 06:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Original research. Violates WP:NOR policy. Atrian (talk) 13:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Please note that the article's footnotes have now been overhauled and lengthened. Thanks. Sparks1 (talk) 15:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete: Original research. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 17:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Is this a voting booth or a discussion? Please defend your contributions. Sparks1 (talk) 18:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Wikipedia does not publish original thought: all material in Wikipedia must be attributable to a reliable, published source ... Original research is material for which no reliable source can be found. Information has been cited more than forty times in this article from reliable sources (see the footnotes).
    • Articles may not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position not clearly advanced by the sources. The purpose of the article is shared explicitly among several of the works cited, including government, archival and periodical publications.
  • Keep, no good reason to delete. Well-cited. Stifle (talk) 18:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep I don't see any reason to delete the article. It's both well researched and well cited (as Stifle pointed out above). Regarding the article Monarchy in Saskatchewan, I would point out that there are articles about the Monarchy in every province, not just Saskatchewan. The article Royal visits to Saskatchewan could use some cleanup (and a lead), and would probably be better named List of Royal visits to Saskatchewan. Also, being visited by the Queen does not make a place notable, and most of the places visited fall into the "non-notable" category, so there is no articles to mention this in. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 16:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.