Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Goldrick-Rab

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete per WP:CSD#G12, or copyvio. Editing a copyvio makes it a derivative work of a copyvio, which still makes it a copyvio under law. —Kurykh 18:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sara Goldrick-Rab

Sara Goldrick-Rab (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

University of Wisconsin assistant professor, fails WP:PROF. Eliz81(talk)(contribs) 19:08, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. —David Eppstein 19:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Insufficiently accomplished to pass WP:PROF yet, I think. —David Eppstein 19:41, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment also appears to be cut and pasted from the faculty bio page. Don't know if that qualifies for speedy. Eliz81(talk)(contribs) 20:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
    • It does, WP:CSD G12. But if I thought the article were worth keeping, I'd try to reword to avoid the copyright violation instead of just deleting. —David Eppstein 20:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as copyvio & notability. I see little in the bio to make it worth working on to keep. Not enough papers--google Scholar only shows 6 peer-reviewed papers, none yet widely cited, which is not enough. May be notable some day, but not yet. DGG (talk) 02:26, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Assistant professor with PhD in 2004 would need something special to meet WP:PROF; having reviewed her CV, there seems no evidence of that here. Espresso Addict 04:10, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep due to awards and research. Bearian 23:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I don't want to badger the nominator, but I can't figure out if there's one overeager Wisconsin student who's submitting articles about all the professors there, or if it's just Wisconsin Day at the AfD forum. Are there non-notable professor articles for any other school? Mandsford 02:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
It's not all of Wisconsin, it's the Wisconsin School of Education. And it is not a student. It's the PR person at the School, who inserted a large number of somewhat dubiously sourced and written articles for people in that school, the more and the less notable alike. Two or three of us posted at the time, reminding him of our policies, and asking him to get them into shape. He ignored it; not surprisingly, they were listed for deletion. I wrote again, and I sent an email, telling him that if was going to do this against COI policy, he should at least do it right. He thanked me for the update, and did nothing. A few of us rescued the articles for the really notable ones. The worst have been speedied, as have the ones that were blatant copyvio. The debatable ones are here.
This is not typical. Other school PR people and Department Managers have done similarly at first, but when one writes to them, and explains, they understand and co-operate. They let the ones that are not notable by our standards be painlessly deleted. They fix the articles for the notable ones, removing any copyvio, making sure there are references, and changing the language to fit what they must regard as our peculiar style. COI does not prevent the writing of a good article, if there is careful attention from the uninvolved. Good professionals from outside can help build good content, and will let us teach them how. DGG (talk) 03:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.