Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sami Ahmad

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Shanel 03:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sami Ahmad and Dr Sami Salem Ahmad

"Sami Ahmad" surgeon only turns up 67 hits on Google, this person doesn't seem to be notable. —WAvegetarian^TALK_CONTRIBS^EMAIL 19:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Delete as non-notable. I checked "Sami Ahmad" Doktor, in case there were German articles about him, and found nothing. --Thunk 19:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Try "Chirurg" (surgeon) rather than "Doktor" and the pickings are rather richer, for instance Roser Klinik Stuttgart and a more general listing. Still doesn't look that notable, though. Tonywalton  | Talk 20:07, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I would have deleted it immediately if I had noticed it was a duplicate. Deb 20:55, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Thunk --Ruby 21:28, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as nn.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 02:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Claims to be a director at the Jordan Hospital in Amman, yet the staff list of that Hospital Does not mention him. --Irishpunktom\^talk 14:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Comment per this he's "Leitender Chirurg des Jordan-Zentrums für Adipositas, Amman" (Leading Surgeon at the Jordan Centre for Obesity, Amman); the Jordan Hospital reference may or may not merely be a mistranslation in the article. Delete, by the way (I forgot to say that before). Tonywalton  | Talk 15:31, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Non notable; looks like a personal advert. --Cymsdale 10:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

• Why Delete: Dr Sami Salem Ahmad turned out to have nothinh to do with Jordan Hospital. He owns and directs his own private centre for GI and bariatric surgery only, in Jordan. (website for his centre is drsami-clinic.com) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meico (talk • contribs) .
• Should not be deleted: Dr Sami Salem Ahmad turned out to have nothing to do with Jordan Hospital. He owns and directs his own private centre for GI and bariatric surgery only, in Jordan, it seems that there was a misunderstanding because his centre is called Jordan Centre for Gastrointestinal and Obesity Surgery (JCGOS)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meico (talk • contribs) .
• Why deleting it: I live in Jordan. Dr Sami Salem Ahmad is very famous here. Even The Arabian Super star (Diana Karazoon) is one of his patients. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meico (talk • contribs) .

• Comment: In Jordan, Dr Sami Salem Ahmad seems to be like Dr Ivo Pitanguy in Brazil —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meico (talk • contribs) .

• Never Delete: I'm a patient of Dr Ahmad, as well as a good and well reputaed surgeon. He appears every now and then on TV. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meico (talk • contribs) .
• Why Delete? Dr Sami Salem Ahmad really appears to be well considered as a surgeon, with a good reputation. These are some German help groups which consider him[1], [2]—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wello (talk • contribs) 16:38, February 23, 2006 (UTC)

Comment: Dr Sami Salem introduced the new method of anterior hernia repair for morbid obese patients. (Article in the obesity surgery journal)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wello (talk • contribs) 16:43, February 23, 2006 (UTC)

• Should not be deleted Notable Character, saw him on TV —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.90.160.162 (talk • contribs)
• Comment: Listed as a well reputated bariatric surgeon on the atemedic website http://www.artemedic.de/Dr__Ahmad.121.0.html--Meico 11:42, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete non notable bio page. As per nom. --OscarTheCat^talk 13:54, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: I made the page, and put the least amount of information I could get so (I deleted the bio information)--Meico 15:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

That still doesn't remove the fact that it's an article about a non-notable person (WP:BIO). If the article is about yourself (which I suspect it is), then it's also vanity and an advertisment. --Cymsdale 15:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Should not be deleted-If Colt McCoy can have a page dedicated for himself why not this Muslim guy?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.177.246.3 (talk • contribs)

The only reason Coly McCoy has a page dedicated to himself is because no one has noticed it... until now. --Cymsdale 15:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: I think that a surgeon having 5 or 6 operations a day wouldn't have time to scratch his head, so how would you expect him to spend a great deal of time making himself a page he may never need (Cymsdale)...--Wello 16:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Since I cannot prove that the page was created by you, I'll have to stick with nn and advert. --Cymsdale 16:20, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I made the article Cymsdale, didn't you read above???--Meico 17:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. PJM 16:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

The page was made by meico, so you dont have to prove anything Cymsdale —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.90.160.162 (talk • contribs)

• Should not be deleted: I belive he's notable. Wrote 3 books (Obesity and its effects, Obesity Surgery and Life after Obesity Surgery), All 3 books come as a package and are present in every library in Amman, as written on the cover of every book--Meico 17:00, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

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