Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam B. Taylor

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep per the Divine Right of Kings and the consensus of the Wikipedian minions to maintain the status quo. (non-admin close) RMHED (talk) 21:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sam B. Taylor

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I speedy-deleted this page under CSD:A7 as there was no overt assertion of notability. After a discussion and a DRV supported by four editors (all from WikiProject College Football) I undeleted the page and am now listing it here.

I feel this article should be deleted for the following reasons:

  • The subject does not meet any part of WP:BIO
  • The team which he managed does not even have its own article
  • The article contains no citations from reliable sources, which are required under the verifiability policy
    • Note that cfbdatawarehouse.com cannot be considered a reliable source - it is merely a college football enthusiast site. I would expect to see news coverage or similar, secondary sources.
    • Note that pvamu.edu cannot be considered a reliable source as it is a primary source. See WP:SPS.

I have nominated most of the articles together but am separating this article as it claims that the coach is one of the four most successful that this team has had, therefore there is an extra chance that he is notable. In the interest of full disclosure I would ask members of WP:CFB to declare their membership when giving their opinion in this AFD. Stifle (talk) 22:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep per my comments in the main nom. VegaDark (talk) 22:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep — Re:PaulMcDonald in Prarie View A&M Coaches. Precedent has been set with other articles. JKBrooks85 (talk) 01:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment I have improved the article with additional information and sources.--Paul McDonald (talk) 05:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. First source is a trivial mention, second source contains a few trivial mentions (if there were more of these, it would probably be different, though still borderline), and the rest are just tables of data. Nothing to suggest he passes BIO or even general notability. Celarnor Talk to me 20:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • The man last coached 46 years ago. I would wager a guess that there are a bunch of offline sources. --SmashvilleBONK! 20:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. Passes WP:ATHLETE pretty straightforwardly. "Competitors and coaches who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports (who meet the general criteria of secondary sources published about them)." --SmashvilleBONK! 21:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 22:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment It's been over 5 days. I propose that the article be kept with a consensus of "keep" -- any objections or discussion?--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:ATHLETE, as expressed by Smashville. Although online sources are fairly limited in their coverage of Taylor, the now-sourced information in the article is suggestive of notability and of adequate coverage in offline sources. –Black Falcon (Talk) 19:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.