Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salzburg Forum

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Cheers, Keeper | 76 21:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Salzburg Forum

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Unsourced, no indication as to what the topic in question is about, maybe OR as well? VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 10:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - perhaps CSD A7 (non-notable website). Also due the WP:MOS issue that I cannot grab the meaning of the bulk text there. Dekisugi (talk) 11:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Changed my opinion to keep per late improvement of the article. Dekisugi (talk) 10:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete or reduce to stub - it's a political forum, rather than an internet forum. Whilst it could be a viable topic for an article, this huge block of text appears to be bulk automatic translations from the various pdf files that are externally linked. Unsalvagable and has possible copyright problems. Marasmusine (talk) 11:15, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - Despite the lack of style, the group itself seems to exist and be of some importance. It's called Forum or Group depending on the source, but I'd call government records spanning multiple countries pretty reliable sources. Serious, serious trim and rewrite. Pairadox (talk) 11:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
• Comment - I'm afraid the bulk text is a copy paste from somewhere so it might breach copyright infringement. Anyhow, I will change my vote to keep if there are some reliable sources given there. Dekisugi (talk) 11:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Note that I just skimmed the sources for relevance to the topic; I didn't check them against the text of the article. As Dekisugi mentioned, it's pretty difficult to get through. Pairadox (talk) 11:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
• Comment - This article doesn't breach copyright I am the co-author of it with one of my intern. The material was collected and the article was written by me and by her. I work for a Hungarian civil liberties NGO, you can check out the NGO at www.tasz.hu page. As the Salzburg Forum (or group) is a quite secretive co-operation in Europe, but has some influence on EU justice and home affairs, the only way to get to know more about it, seemed to me writing an article and publishing on wikipedia. I could collect material only in three languages and due to the non-transparent nature of the co-operation the outcome is bit like a mosaic. However, the contributors of the wikipedia might be able to put together the missing mosaics to form a reliable picture. As I am a beginner wiki contributor I believed that posting the core text and a bit later completing it with the references might not cause any problem. Foldes (talk) 10:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. A very quick search for sources finds references at [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] and many more. The article simply needs to be edited, not deleted. Phil Bridger (talk) 23:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep as per obvious reliable sources found by Phil Bridger and concur with the article needing to be edited not deleted. --Russavia (talk) 20:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.