Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sail to the Moon (song)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was REDIRECT to Hail to the Thief. based on recommendations from proposed Wikipedia:Notability (songs) guidelines. Madchester 17:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sail to the Moon (song)
NN, non single song--Macarion 20:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "non album song"? Redirect to the album on which it appears, namely Hail to the Thief. Punkmorten 21:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Oops, I meant non-single --Macarion 21:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect. Kappa 10:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - nothing worth redirecting to the album article unless the second sentence can be sourced. Otherwise, it's pure POV. Ac@osr 11:24, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Now that's easy - see [1]. Punkmorten 18:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, it's the third sentence, I'm not contesting that it actually is track 3 on HTTT! Hasn't achieved anything outwith the context of the album tho' has it? Ac@osr 21:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I thought songs that aren't singles aren't supposed to be articles? --Macarion 19:08, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep The article does need alot of work, but the song is notable--as most Radiohead songs are--and should be kept. Also, if only singles were allowed articles than such famous songs as Stairway to Heaven and A Day in the Life would not have articles. I recommend removing the redirect to Hail to the Theif.Dhawk1964 06:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - per above statement. Lots of songs have their own article. Orangehead 16:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Are you suggesting this song is of equal status to Stairway To Heaven or A Day In The Life? Ac@osr 20:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Not at all, I was just saying that a song doesn't need to be a single to be notable enough to have an article and often songs that aren't singles are more notable than single songs. I did give that impression though, sorry for the misunderstanding. Dhawk1964 01:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't really see what makes this song notable. --Macarion 01:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's a fan favorite and is one of the most popular non-single tracks on Hail to the Theif in the album reviewing community. Dhawk1964 01:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't really see what makes this song notable. --Macarion 01:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Not at all, I was just saying that a song doesn't need to be a single to be notable enough to have an article and often songs that aren't singles are more notable than single songs. I did give that impression though, sorry for the misunderstanding. Dhawk1964 01:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect Not a single and the article does not provide any assertion of its notability. The (unverified) claim that the song is a favorite in the "album-reviewing community" can be made in the main Hail to the Thief article. I love Radiohead, but the song does not scream notability. --Madchester 16:22, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- What about I Will? That song isn't the most famous song, but it has an article that's devloped well. Dhawk1964 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Again, if a song is not notable, per the proposed Wikipedia:Notability (songs) guidelines, then it should not be included in Wikipedia. --Madchester 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- "First, create an article on the artist. Second, create articles on each album released by the artist. Once there's enough independently verifiable information included about individual songs, spin the information from songs out into their own articles." I think it's fair to say that the Radiohead album articles have devolped enough and now articles for individual songs can be written. Dhawk1964 17:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. Again review the guidelines. Even if song articles are spun-off from an album article, they still need to meet the criteria stated. I was the one who wrote expanded the "Street Spirit" and "Karma Police" articles in the first place, since they warranted notability as commercial singles. "Sail to the Moon" doesn't meet any of these general criteria in the proposed guidelines. --Madchester 17:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- "First, create an article on the artist. Second, create articles on each album released by the artist. Once there's enough independently verifiable information included about individual songs, spin the information from songs out into their own articles." I think it's fair to say that the Radiohead album articles have devolped enough and now articles for individual songs can be written. Dhawk1964 17:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Again, if a song is not notable, per the proposed Wikipedia:Notability (songs) guidelines, then it should not be included in Wikipedia. --Madchester 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- What about I Will? That song isn't the most famous song, but it has an article that's devloped well. Dhawk1964 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
