Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sacred Heart School

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep (no consensus). A very slight majority for deletion, but no consensus. Sjakkalle (Check!) 11:58, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sacred Heart School, now moved to Sacred Heart School, Halifax, Nova Scotia

"Sacred Heart School" gets ~85,000 google hits. It's gonna take an amazing disambiguation page to straighten them all out some day. Not notable. Delete. Or at least rename to something more specific. Or maybe this could be made into a list of all schools named Sacred Heart. -- Mwanner 02:02, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep and expand (my comp can't open the PDF prospected so I can't right now). We can move to a better title if need be. Christopher Parham (talk) 03:03, 2005 August 5 (UTC)
• Delete: no claim to notability, as noted title is less than helpful. The chances of someone search "Sacred Heart School" and intending to get this article are close to zero. 128.112.24.137 03:32, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
  • No longer an issue, thankfully. Factitious 22:04, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete until notability established by article.Gateman1997 06:51, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Drat, and I was hoping for an analysis of the wacked-out education system in New Orleans. Eldereft 08:02, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, there must be 10,000 schools with this name. Disambiguation would be utterly impossible. I'd suggest moving the stub to Sacred Heart School, Halifax, Nova Scotia, but I'd rather see it deleted. Proto t c 09:14, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand/disambiguate. Kappa 10:07, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete unless you can come up with any schools called Sacred Heart that are notable enough to deserve their own articles, in which case dab them. Dunc|☺ 12:45, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Location established. Notability established. It's a school. Osomec 15:44, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. As Osomec so perceptively puts it, it's a school. Specifically, it's a mixed-sex Catholic school in Halifax, Nova Scotia. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 16:44, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, non-notable. Nandesuka 17:19, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Move to geography-specific name.--Briangotts (talk) 17:21, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep this article and expand, or else merge into a school district article. Arguements about a need for disambiguation don't appear relevant to the question of a need to delete the article on this specific school. — RJH 17:31, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

  If we're going to keep the article it should be moved to a region specified name. I went to "Sacred Heart School" as a kid but it was in California, not Canada.Gateman1997 18:22, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

• keep please we do not need to use this place to rename articles Yuckfoo 18:47, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete or speedy delete: It's a perfect criterion #1 speedy delete, in my opinion, as a predicate nominative is not an article. At present, this is an answer, a Yellow Pages entry. Further, the article is wildly misnamed. Further, there is nothing here to explain what is unique (other than the address) about it. All the school harpists can go back to sleep, since I know none will actually do some work to affect the improvement, and save your energies for an actual article on a school listed on VfD. Geogre 18:52, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Geogre, poppet-me-pet, could you please indulge me? HOw could an article called Sacred Heart School, written about a school called coincidentally Sacred Heart School, possibly be described as "wildly misnamed"? What name would satisfy you? Wild Hogmistress of the Deeps of the Western Frond Marshes? I'm sorry but I cannot imagine an occasion on which I would regard "Sacred Heart School" as an inappropriate name for an article about a school of that name--I hope you're not joining those advancing lack of disambiguation as a reason for deletion of an article.
  • And then there the other falsehoods you pile on this. You tell us that the article is "a Yellow Pages entry". Well so what? You claim that it's a CSD 1, no it isn't. "No meaningful content or history, text completely meaningless or unsalvageably incoherent (e.g., random characters)". The article is an excellent stub because it's useful, it informs someone who didn't know (I didn't) that there exists a school in Halifax, Nova Scotia, called The Sacred Heart, it's a mixed sex, multiple-age school and the current Canadian leader of the Sacred Heart Society is an alumna. This is not a CSD1 and the fact that you blatantly assert falsehoods in proposing its deletion does not help the case. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 23:13, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Content-free article. --Carnildo 19:32, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• delete not enough content, can be recreated if necessary when someone has some info to put in article. --Tim Pope 19:45, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete this article has no informative content, nor will it probably ever. --jonasaurus 21:20, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete not notable. Dejvid 22:51, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, describing schools is necessary to the coverage of education. Kappa 23:04, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment did Kappa vote twice? I don't think he would, so maybe a someone trying to confuse the vote? Vegaswikian 05:05, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Oops yes that was me, I forget I already voted. I'll have to be more careful. At least it shows someone is following the discussion. Kappa 12:58, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep verifiable and NPOV schools. I think it should have been moved to Sacred Heart School of Halifax, however, as the school website titles it. DoubleBlue (Talk) 23:09, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
  • SimonP has a good point. This was supposed to be a vote on Sacred Heart School, which is a dab now. I vote keep to the dab page as well. DoubleBlue (Talk) 00:22, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete until the notable schools by this name have been found, and given better article names anyway. -Splash 23:10, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. •Zhatt• 23:25, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to Immaculate Conception School.

  Why the redirect to that school?Gateman1997 00:21, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep on building a better Wikipedia. —RaD Man (talk) 01:49, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per the reasons above. Vegaswikian 05:06, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand disambig page. - SimonP 12:38, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Salsb 20:49, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as not notable. Jonathunder 02:43, 2005 August 7 (UTC)
• Keep Important and notable. Unfocused 03:07, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, expand. By the way, you're really not supposed to move articles while a VfD is underway. -- Visviva 11:59, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments. - brenneman^(t)(c) 13:54, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: yet again Aaron plays his silly trick of referring to Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Delete and piping the link so that it appears to refer to Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 12:07, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes Tony, I was trying to fool those people who either didn't know how to scroll up or would not wonder what that extra text was about. I would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for those meddling kids! - brenneman^(t)(c) 12:22, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
    • One has to wonder why you so desperately wish to obscure the anchor tag however. It makes it appear that you wish for someone to read your rationale and, not clicking the link, believe that Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments shows why this school should be deleted, when, in fact, it shows both sides of the argument. Surely, that is not what you intend but it is how it appears. I agree, btw, that those in favour should anchor their link as well. Perhaps the arguments page should be split into 2 sub-pages. DoubleBlue (Talk) 15:58, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
      • I don't think it would be a good idea to split up the arguments just because Aaron is engaging in abusive and dishonest editing. Let's leave him to it and refuse to let his disgraceful behavior influence the disposition of the page, which is currently perfectly fine. If someone were to transform the headings into unanchored bolds, however, I would not oppose this. This would cause all links to go to the page, in the absence of "#Keep" and "#Delete" anchors. Aaron was not the first person to engage in abusive linking to that page. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 17:33, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
    • DoubleBlue, I'd like to draw attention to your vote, and the link provided: verifiable and NPOV which actually points to Wikipedia_talk:Fame_and_importance#No. Rather than assuming that you're being devious, I'll keep faith. I'd secondly like to draw your attention to the manner in which Tony has comported himself with regards to editing my votes. I've listed the diffs and made notes on Tony's talk page. I've also shot my mouth off a little there, but being called a "liar", "disgraceful", and "dishonest" tends to piss people off. - brenneman^(t)(c) 00:07, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
      • Replied on talk page. DoubleBlue (Talk) 06:12, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Real place --malathion ^talk 22:46, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Not all real places are notable. This one isn't. CDThieme 00:34, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 00:56, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and major expand. Beta_M ^talk, |^contrib (Ë-Mail)
• Keep. I'm uncertain whether this is a vote on Sacred Heart School or Sacred Heart School, Halifax, Nova Scotia. The former is a useful disambiguation page, and the latter is a useful stub on a verifiable topic. Neither of them causes problems for Wikipedia. I see no reason to delete them. Factitious 22:04, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, as per Factitious. arj 21:46, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Delete. Now not ambigious, but still no particuler indication of notability. DES ^(talk) 23:55, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete: not notable. No Account 00:57, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.