Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan West

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Coredesat 02:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ryan West

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Extremely borderline notability. Nominating per a thread on ANI. Yes, he has a grammy nomination, but that was an engineer... do we have articles for every sound engineer on every Grammy nominated album(s)? I recuse from this one, as I simply don't know enough about what is notable for back-end music technicians like this.

NOTE: User:Ryanwestmusic, who appears to be Ryan West, made the article and worked a lot on it. • Lawrence Cohen 22:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep, Grammy nominee. Corvus cornix 22:14, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
That was my question, though... does being a sound engineer on a Grammy nominated album count? We'd have a dozen new articles on engineers each year in that case. • Lawrence Cohen 22:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I think this would fall under "Notability is not inherited" - the artist and the album might be notable, but everyone who worked on it is not necessarily notable. Mr.Z-man 17:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Worse, there is no Grammy awarded to specifically to engineers. If there was some other evidence offered of notability, he could stay. But the brief mention of his work as a mixer on Usher's album isn't enough. SolidPlaid 22:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete notability is borderline at best and author/subject indicates he would like to have this removed. Mr.Z-man 22:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - Not only was it only a Grammy nomination rather than a win, it wasn't him that was nominated. Other than that there are no citations or sources to verify the claims in the article. As it stands the guy does not meet the requirements of WP:MUSIC or WP:N. It also seems obvious that the guy himself doesn't want the article there. Seems a good enough set of circumstances to assign it to the bitbucket. ---- WebHamster 22:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. I brought this up at ANI because there is persistant vandalism on the page, and I wasn't sure exactly how to proceed. The subject (and creator, it seems) of the article has also expressed a wish to see it deleted. Deleting would solve the issue. --UsaSatsui 23:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete For lack of notability, and the subject's request. Bfigura (talk) 02:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I marked this for deletion a few days ago, it is constantly vandalised and there wasn't much there to start with DoyleyTalk 13:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Constant vandalism isn't a delete reason (case in point). --UsaSatsui 13:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Yeah I know, everything else has been voiced above and I didn't want to repeat DoyleyTalk 17:40, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to add my two cents here, but here goes. I am a mixing engineer and record producer with plenty credible references on the web. Whether Wikipedia decides that because I'm not famous outside of the music business I don't deserve a blurb or two, I'm non-plussed. What space does it take up? 300kb? I could list a whole bunch of stuff that in some people's eyes, would be enough for an article. I've been interviewed by Scratch, Remix and Mix magazine. I was on VH1's White Rapper Show. I am currently producing my cousin, Lady Miss Kier of Deeelite. I have two Grammy nominations....yes nominations, not wins, however I was nominated and attended. I have hundreds of products on the market with my name and creative input on them. You may not give engineer/mixers much credit, but I think that's a mistake. Besides, who in the heck said you must be famous to be listed here? I mean, I've seen listings for CEOs of middle of the road corporations. Where's the priority here? Like I said, either way, I'm non-plussed, but let's be clear here. My listing has been plagued by jerk-faced pranksters. I'm not sure how I became the target of that crap, but I can assure you it's made me weary of this whole thing. Sorry for the dissertation, but how's a guy supposed to feel? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.97.172 (talk) 01:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.