Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rugby league in Canada

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The result of the debate was Keep. --Titoxd(?!?) 03:09, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby league in Canada

Speedy delete. This is a hoax article. RL is not played in Canada. GeorgeWilliams 10:33, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Comment. You're quite wrong, according to this. Have you actually checked up on all of these nominations? - Randwicked 15:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment You should stop by Canada one afternoon. Of bloody course we play rugby here.

Denni ☯ 01:43, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep Work in progress pages, plenty of information available.


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The result was Keep. Non-admin closing. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 23:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] rugby league in Canada

Rugby league in Canada (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
  • Delete - While rugby league once was played in Canada it no longer is, so I don't think something virtually nonexistant merits its own page. James Bowes 21:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

*keep - I refer the nominator to this site, which clearly demonstrates that rugby league is still played in Canada. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep for historical value at the very least. The site I referred to above (and which was used in the previous AfD) is in fact about rugby union, a mistake which was made due to my browser being unable to load the entire page first off. That said, the nominator and I are both unable to find any evidence later than 2003 dealing with the sport in Canada - things can change drastically in 3 years, but at the very least we know it was played that recently. Importantly, there is no reliable evidence that the game is not played still
Comment - If you read the source you'd realise it was a rugby union competition and thus irrelevent to this rugby league article.James Bowes 17:10, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Comment - I don't want to go calling names, but a check of this user's contributions makes for odd reading. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - even if it was not currently played in Canada, a major sport in a major nation would still be article-worthy.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:34, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah but it's not at me, maybe at people who think a rugby union competition is a rugby league one.James Bowes 17:14, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep obviously. History is a key component in an encyclopedia. Resolute 01:48, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. I'd like the nom to give his source for the assertion that rugby isn't played in Canada. Since when? If that's the case, there's a rather active rugby club near where I live that never got the message. (All this said, the article needs work, but that's not grounds for deletion). 23skidoo 04:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
    • -Check the articles for rugby union and rugby league. The rugby you know is a different sport to the rugby league of the article. James Bowes 17:10, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Still delete That webpage is quite clearly rugby union. Rugby union is a semi-major sport in Canada, rugby league there is dead. Can you check the sources carefully before making claims. I refer people to this article rugby union in Canada and this one Rugby Canada Super League James Bowes 10:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Comment You get one "vote" to delete, not two or more. There's no sources indicating a dearth of rugby league. Additionally, remember WP:NPA and cease calling people "ignorant". BigHaz - Schreit mich an 11:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I shouldn't name call but using a rugby union site as evidence for rugby league in a country is clearly wrong. The only site I can find for rugby league in Canada is this one:http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/canadianrl/. Despite being an active site there is no mention of seasons post 2003, and the guestbook has loads of people asking about rugby league in Canada, but no replies suggesting there is. It's quite clear that the sport is dead in the country but I'll try find better sources.—Preceding unsigned comment added by James Bowes (talk • contribs)
I'm impressed you can get anything at all out of that site. I've tried it a couple of times and the best result I got was a series of links with broken pictures (which were thankfully still clickable). Sort of a feeling-your-way-in-the-dark thing. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 11:37, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
If you move your cursor over the boxes to the left there are still open links, but that site, with no matches played since 2003 is the only page concerning rugby league (as opposed to the rugby union played in the Canada Rugby Super League) suggests that the sport is at best dormant in Canada.James Bowes 14:27, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep; even if something is defunct, it still has historical value. This is, after all, an encyclopedia, not just a directory of "things that are current in 2006". Bearcat 20:41, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep; article needs work but no need to delete it. Also I'm pretty sure Canada had two competitions at one point, either a East/West split or a split because of Superleague. Need to do some more research but that should be included in the article. Mattlore 07:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
There were Ontario and Manitoba 9-a-side leagues up til 2003 as evidenced by this site http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/canadianrl/ (you need to run the cursor over the left hand boxes for the link). However, all evidence suggests that rugby league in Canada has been dormant since 2003 (at least on an organised level, who knows if there have been ad hoc matches). I think the article needs heavy improvement as to describe rugby league as an emerging sport there is both inaccurate and a non-NPOV as there's no evidence it will ever emerge there. Not sure of the split but I would assume all rugby league in Canada was allied to Super League, as it was in most countries, with the ARL largely being localised.
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