Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rozoil

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The links provided in the last comment are stories mostly about oil prices in general; this company is mentioned in the context of being representative of general trends. As brought up in the discussion, this isn't enough to qualify as a reliable source about the company. — TKD::Talk 11:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rozoil

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Non-notable energy startup; article appears to exist largely just to promote the company. ghits [1] NMChico24 06:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - It reads as spam to me. --Hirohisat Talk 06:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, per WP:SPAM and fails WP:ORG. Carlosguitar 11:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - There is little information circulating about this industry and who is involved in it, eventhough it effects a heavily populated area and and can be linked to many other topics of research and discussion. Negevboy 13:48, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - If one of the purposes of an encyclopedia is to spread information and knowledge to places that this information and knowledge would be otherwise unknown, than there is no practical reason that this entry be deleted. Those who are not familiar with the Heating Oil Industry in New Haven CT, will have no clue who Rozoil is and why the company is important to note, both in a historical context of heating oil and the New Haven heating oil market, and also in a business perspective. Being that Rozoil is a progressive company many other companies have recently been changed or formed to follow a similar business model.

Those who have elected to have this entry be deleted simply do not see why this article and the topics discussed in it are relevant. If anything as it's creator I would say that this article should be given time so that it can be edited to provide more sources and or clean up to substantiate the points and information that make it worthy to be read. In short the COD type of heating oil companies were started during the 1980's in New Haven, CT and have since spread throughout the Northeast. Unfortunately there is not substantial data on the internet that is readily available that can back this. But I do know that Bigger Automatic companies have tried for decades to squash the COD business and this could be a real reason as to why we don’t hear that much about it. Whatever the reason may be, Rozoil is the Biggest COD company in the region, and because of this it is worthy of recognition. I do not think that this article is offering spam, and the reality is Rozoil is heavily searched word on the internet in New Haven. The more information that readers have about the oil industry, and the players involved in local, regional and global dealings with this subject, the better. I would not flag for deletion an article about the Hassane Tribe in the Western Sahara as a possible plug to initiate a tribal war, but would read it with interest. So the same if somebody is interested in the heating oil industry of new haven, or COD oil companies than they will have an article to read in Rozoil. So to close, this article should remain on Wikipedia, time should be given that better sources used as references, and the News articles that have made recent headlines about the company should prove it is worthy of attention and capable of providing a source of knowledge and information. Negevboy 13:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per WP:N, WP:ORG, and WP:SPAM. Nenyedi • (Deeds•Talk) 14:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment to Negevboy - actually, the purpose of Wikipedia is to be an encyclopedia of notable subjects, not a a collection of everything that has ever existed. Unless this company is to be historically notable in some way, and you have the reliable sources to verify this notability, then this company doesn't warrant an article. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 14:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment to NeoChaos - Thank you for reading my post. I have noted 3 significant points that are worthy of this article being kept. 1) There is no mention of the COD Heating Oil business on Wikipedia. 2) The New Haven Heating Oil Market, is one of the most competitive oil markets in the country, 3) Rozoil is the biggest COD heating oil company in New Haven. I agree with you that their needs to be better representation of these points so that they can be sourced back too, in some way - so that this will not be perceived as an advertisement - this only needs time and not deletion. Although, as I have mentioned, little is circulating about COD companies because the major Automatic Companies have attempted to squash them, in every way shape and form. Just out of curiosity why would [[2]]be allowed an article and Rozoil not? Negevboy 18:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Regarding that article you linked, just because an article for one small business exists doesn't mean other businesses can have one, too. Articles still need to meet the notability and verifiability guidelines, and those that get away with it can sometimes be too obscure for most editors to notice (but thanks for pointing it out!). In regards to Rozoil, you can save the article with supplying reliable sources that demonstrate the notability of the company (as well as back up the three points you made), and reference those sources in the article. This discussion will run 5 days, so that's plenty of time for you to find sources and improve the article. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 21:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Per: WP:SPAM and WP:CORP. I don't think the few external sources cited have sufficient depth to prove notability. (Ie, one line in a local newspaper quoting a company regarding the price of oil does not a WP:RS make. Also, as a note to Negevboy: Bob's_Discount_Furniture is now being considered for deletion as well. bfigura (talk) 04:50, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment There are more sources that should substantiate the companies notability besides "1 line" - Try two 5' oclock news reports with video, on two TV stations, [3] and [4] and many more mentions in the New Haven Register - July 06 [5]Jan 06 [6]Feb 06 [7], July 07, [8]The trend has been, that to follow what is going on the New Haven Oil Market - just ask Rozoil. They are a (notable) leader in their market and these sorces prove that. Negevboy 16:42, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.