Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roy (Fire Emblem)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. east.718 at 18:46, 11/3/2007

[edit] Roy (Fire Emblem)

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Not notable per WP:N. No coverage in sources independent of the subject. ShadowUltra 00:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep; Roy is a playable character in the most popular game on the Gamecube and has major roles in multiple other games. He is without a doubt notable enough for at least a mention in the main articles on the games. Since he is certainly at least notable enough for a mention, even if you think he isn't notable for an article, this is a job for a merge, not a deletion, which is not the job of AFD. —Dark•Shikari[T] 01:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
    • If notability in Smash is an example of notability outside the series, we should proceed with an Ike article. Believe me, I hate to have to do this to so many quality articles, but the trend recently is that any fictional character without notability outside their series should be deleted. See: Ridley (Metroid) ShadowUltra 01:18, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep WP:FICT says that some articles may be treated as sections of parent articles (this article would be a big section). This article is too much to merge. Also note that Wikipedia is a specialized encyclopedia. Tim Q. Wells 01:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep: Independent sources can be found, as with Marth (Fire Emblem)—I just haven't got round to it yet. His notability may not be greatly justified, but he just about has enough to warrant his own article. As for Ike, it's been agreed not to create an article—see my points at Talk: List of characters in Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance#seperate Ike article?. Basically, inclusion in SSBB alone shouldn't automatically result in great notability. Roy's different—he and Marth introduced Fire Emblem to the West and both of them became synonymous with the series. Thanks. Ashnard Talk Contribs 07:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Cull and Merge. The Smash Brothers section is almost entirely a "game guide" section and can thus be pared down to only a few sentences. The "personality" section is entirely OR and should be deleted wholesale. That leaves only about four paragraphs worth of information. That's easy to merge. - Che Nuevara 13:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge. Much of the content is SSBM guide content. And has only had two appearances in the FE series, one minor. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. While there are some sourcing issues, and some portions of this get game-guidey, fixing these problems would still leave too much content to reasonably be merged back into the Fire Emblem article. It's quite likely that there are sources about Roy for as much that is discussed about Marth (Fire Emblem). Actually, I suggest to contributors that they check into the sources in the Marth article for more sources for Roy. I can go in and cull the obvious game guide content from the Smash Brothers section, but as I'm not familiar with Roy much outside of that context, I can't do much more than that. LaMenta3 02:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment: On a similar note, please remember that under modification, it will be very similar to the Marth article, albeit shorter. If people are so concerned about this, then I'll try to get it cleaned up by this week. Of course, that's if it survives. Ashnard Talk Contribs 07:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.